The Top Pickup Artist Forum On The Internet: Fast Seduction 101

“Q&A: SOMEONE TRIED THE PERSONAL AD IDEA” – February 13, 2002

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***QUESTION***

“First let me start by saying, your COCKY + FUNNY is perfect. Girls seem to be drawn to me so much that my friends are starting to hate on me HAHAHA!!!

But now onto my question. I’ve gotten email addresses and numbers been on dates and follow up dates. What I want to make sure to do right is the “KISS TEST”! How can I move into the kiss test smoothly with out looking like a perv? Thanks for your help!

D.”

>MY COMMENTS: Good job getting the emails and the dates… In your question you wrote something very interesting:

“How can I move into the kiss test smoothly with out looking like a perv?”

In this question I hear a limiting belief:

“Women perceive men who move to kiss them as perverts.”

As long as you have the idea that women think of a man kissing them as “perverted” you’re going to have trouble. As a matter of fact, my experience is that if you DON’T kiss a girl she’ll see you as a WUSS. And that’s not what you want.

So get over your idea that women will think of you as a “perv”… just do it. If she’s out with you, then just do The Kiss Test. Do it.

***QUESTION***

“Hey Dave,

I purchased your book a month ago and I must say that you are a pure genius. That theory with e-mails works so well. Women don’t even think about it when they are giving it to me. I get like one e-mail per week. When I used to ask for phone numbers I usually got the same response:” I don’t give that out.” One question though. What is a possible line to use against a woman that is showing signs that she is just not interested. I read the section about women not being interested in someone right now, or that they are either lesbians or cold women. What I am looking for is before I end the conversation, I want to tell her something that will get her thinking something like “It is going to be my loss if I don’t get to know him.” You understand what I mean. And like I said, pure genius. Talk to you later.”

>MY COMMENTS: First of all, get rid of the idea of using a line “against” a woman. If she’s not interested, the best thing you can do is move on to the next one without hesitation.

I’ve seen it happen MANY, MANY times… I or one of my friends will be talking to a girl, she will be acting like a cold fish, and we’ll say “OK, well I’m going to get back to my friends…”, then later in the evening the girl shows back up and wants to chat…

I understand your desire to have a perfect line for those women who are cold or uninteresting, but you need to raise your standards and just move on. There is so much power in not having any attachment to the outcome when you’re in the situation. Women can feel it, and so can you.

***COMMENT***

“If you’re at a party, the strategy is:

“Well, it was nice talking to you… I’m going to get back to my friends… [turn away]… Hey, do you have email?”

This is a technique I taught Fuller Brush men to use in the 1950’s. It’s called body language^».” It is using your body as visual aid. It is subtle. It completely lowers their defense. They have to make a fast decision if there is the slightest interest to know you more. Best done, before they know TOO much.

I used it to get people to loosen up and buy more Fuller Brushes, I quickly took items from my sample case and then slowly but surely put them back into it, appearing to be leaving, which I WOULD. A good part of each sales meeting discussed how to leave a home because they wanted to talk to us and we had calls to make. What a job,

Really fun.”

>MY COMMENTS: Thanks for your email. It reminds me of an important point that I probably don’t mention often enough.

I teach guys how to use “The 3 Minute Email/Phone Number Technique” to get a woman’s info just a few minutes after meeting her. I talk about it in my newsletters, and I detail the technique in my book “Double Your Dating.”

As much as I talk about it, there are a lot of guys that just won’t use it as I teach it. My guess is that they don’t realize that it is a very carefully designed and tested system, with specific things to do at specific times to make it work.

Of course, one of those things is turning to walk away at the end, then turning back and saying “Hey, do you have email?”

There are so many different factors working in your favor if you ask just like this, yet most guys won’t do it because they don’t REALIZE that I say it this way for a reason.

So I’ll say it again: When I describe a technique for doing something, I’d recommend that you do it exactly as I explain it for the first 50-100 times. Then, if you have an idea for something that might work better, try it after you have a frame of reference!

Thanks again for your email… maybe I should get into the brush selling business. How’s the pay?

***QUESTION***

“Is it just me, or is there a contradiction here?

“It was nice meeting you, you seem like you might make a nice FRIEND. Maybe we can have coffee sometime.”

What, do you want to start talking about math or anthropology, then slide in under her radar with your smooth Mac Daddy techniques… and have her wake up enamored with you?”

>MY COMMENTS: Oh, I love this question. The short answer is “Yes, that’s the idea.”

Here are a few comments in my favorite “numbered” style:

1) There’s a part of the brain called “Broca’s Area” that constantly predicts what’s going to happen, then discounts anything that falls into the “predictable” category.

2) Most guys approach attractive women with a “Wow, you’re really attractive… can I take you out sometime?” gambit. In a word, this is what you might call “Predictable.”

3) Saying “You seem like you might make a nice friend…” is VERY unusual to attractive women. It also has the added benefit of reminding yourself to NOT LET A WOMAN’S APPEARANCE MAKE YOU FORGET TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF A PERSON SHE IS BEFORE YOU BECOME ENAMORED WITH HER!

4) You sound like you’re talking from the perspective of mental logic, and I’m talking from a lot of experience. I think you should try this one out for awhile.

***COMEDY [Pasted here exactly as I received it]***

“THE CRITICAL REALITY SOMETIMES BITES AND IT IS BEST TO JUST KEEP YOUR HEAD UP AND AVOID ALL OTHER PROBLEMS THAT MAY SITUATE. A FRIEND TOLD ME ONCE TO SITUATE THE SITUATION AR JUST STRAIGHT BONE OUT. YOU GOTTA SHOW SOME CLOUT AND IF THE BITCH WHANTS YA OUT THEN LEAVE. TELL HER YA AINT GOT NOTHING UP YOUR SLEEVE. JUST BELIEVE THAT THER IIS A SOLUTION AND DO NOT LET ANYONE CONCIEVE. HARD TIMES FACE US ALL AND WE NEED TO STAND TALL. LETTING EACH AND ALL KNOW WE WONT LET GO AND TO FAIL IS TO FALL. BE STRONG TELL HER TO BRING IT ON IF THE PROBLEM CAN’T BE RESOLVED. GOOD LUC”

>MY COMMENTS: “Y’all be goin’ on vacation? See, the thing is…”

Have you heard the Delta comedy commercial? Did you write that one too?

***COMMENT FROM A WOMAN***

“Hi David:

I’m one of the women who subscribe to your newsletter and love your work. I just want to let you know that, while I lack the equipment to be cocky, I do have the smarts to be sassy, and often silly. The technique works on the guys: smart remarks, teasing, deflection, and a nonchalant attitude. I never answer phone or e-mail messages until 24 hours later. When they call at work (the only number I give out at first) I always have a meeting starting in two minutes. Friday messages may be the exception: they might get a note on Saturday morning saying “too bad we missed each other”, or they might wait till Tuesday. That’s all. No detail of other plans, no suggestions of when I might be available, nothing.

Reading your newsleter this morning, it strikes me that a lot of guys are really asking you for relationship advice. That’s not what you’re doing. Your mission, as you have choosen to accept it, (teasing you David), is to get them through Dating. Relationships is a whole other category.

BTW: Some of the spelling and grammar I see in letters to you is so bad, I would never respond to the writers, and neither would the women I know. As for piercing and tatooos, well, I find my gold Mickey Mouse earrings (in my ears, you guys!) a good deal more useful.

Continue to call a wuss a wuss, and carry on!

A.”

>MY COMMENTS: I love honest women. And that’s all I have to say about that.

***QUESTION***

“Dear David,

First I just wanna say that your a genius, being cocky and funny works like a magic potion!!! But now im stuck…..I went to Mardi Gras this past weekend and I must have came away with 10-15 phone #’s and e-mails a night!!!! And thats no joke.Heres my problem i met this one girl that i really like, shes a waitress at the bar.When she would walk behind me i said one time “did u just grab my ass?” “im not that kind of guy” and she just busted out laughing i was being cocky and funny with her all night….so the whole night i would flirt with other girls and she would keep inturuping and telling all these ohter girls that i was her man….i didnt mind cuz she is fine!!!!!

So at the end of the night she gave me her # without my even having to ask for it.

I called the next day but no answer so i left a message… she never called back so i called about 4 days later and still no answer but i didnt leave a massege this time…then called her later that same night and she said she was in the shower and to call her back but i didnt cuz it didnt really seem like she wanted to talk to me…What should i do?? Another problem is that she lives in New Orleans and i live in New Mexico,is this a bad idea??? …Thanx

B.”

>MY COMMENTS: Ah, another example of “I met 50 women, but I want the one who won’t call me back.”

Isn’t it interesting how we humans don’t want what we have, but we always want what we don’t have?

If I were you, I’d go out and meet some women closer to home. It will wind up costing you a LOT less in airfare over the next few years. And you can trust me on this one.

To answer one of your questions, as a rule of thumb don’t take it personally if a woman doesn’t call you back. Just keep calling every few days until you reach her. Then bust her balls royally for not calling back… of course.

***SUCCESS STORY***

“Hi David,

I just had to respond to your last mail about the Personals…

I bought your book a couple of months ago; boy, it really opened my eyes! I won’t bore you with the same old details you’ve heard before, but I sure did NEED your book🙂 Anyway, I’ve spent a while reading and rereading it, really LEARNING the material… meanwhile I’ve been working on other aspects of myself, working out etc… I finally decided I was ready to get out there and do it, and decided to practice on the Personals to get my confidence up…

I now have a very interesting relationship just starting with a woman I met through emails, ENTIRELY as a result of teasing, not giving her what she asked, not kissing her ass… these are actual quotes from some of her mails to me:

“You are amazing!!!”

“You are just brilliant!”

“You know, I am looking up to you in a way. You are a very interesting person and in a way you fascinate me. Actually I wonder why you are still writing to me. You seem to be free and not to care what I will think about you.”

Read that last line again, guys… THAT is the attitude that attracts women! David, I know you’ve heard this a million times, but you are right! But this isn’t for you… I hope you include this mail in your ‘datingtips’, because this is for all those guys out there still plagued by doubt and uncertainty and a lack of self confidence. This system WORKS!

Thanks a million.

R.”

>MY COMMENTS: Nice.

***SUCCESS STORY FROM SOMEONE WHO TRIED THE PERSONAL AD IDEA FROM THE LAST NEWSLETTER***

Firstly I have, cherish and love the book, but the success stories are what it’s all about… the reasurance that these things are working week in and week out.

I’m English, live in England, and everything works magic… I know some guy mentioned that the other day.

In the past I have not been successful with women:

But now…

1. Getting emails is great, like you say, your on the phone that little bit too long and oops… I sound so boring. Now I find I ahve about 20 decent girls emailing me asking me out, and I’ll be off the phone within a minute….

2. Don’t mention families, jobs, past relationships (boring stuff) I went on a date with this girl about a week before I got this book, and that was all I talked about, add in some of those spine chilling silences you mention and what a great night that was, I capped it off like a perfect wuss asking if she had a good time when I blatently knew she didn’t…. I wasn’t surprised when she didn’t call…. I just let that one go…

3. Cocky & funny…. its awesome works like a charm

4. this is my real point though, quote copy and paste as you said… in a personals add to some random girl

“Well, you sound like you might be more than just another pretty face. Something tells me that you’re probably getting about 50 emails a day from loser guys saying things like “Hi, I’m freshly divorced from my seventh wife, have 5 delinquent kids… but the good news is that I have a good chance at finally getting a job…” etc.

In any event, I’m 35, have my life together, and I’m more than the usual amount of interesting and funny, so you’d better like to laugh.

You sound like you might make an interesting friend, so let’s get together for a cup of something delicious and some interesting conversation… if you think you can handle it, that is!”

…reply from her…

the headline said “you sound like the perfect guy…” I was like wow…. couldn’t believe it, a cocky and funny personals reply…. unlike all the boring ones mentioning me and job etc… heres the rest…

“You sound like a cool guy, up for a laugh, which is the type i am looking for. You are around the eprfect age group for me. I have recieved many emails and this is the only one to which i have replyed which says a lot. I think we could be good friends and more if that is what u want. Perhaps we should egt to know each other more. My ideal man sounds just like you, brown hair brown eyes. I enjoy hanging with friends and meeting new people. Im sure you would be the perfect guy for me. Thanks very much for getting in touch.

Please keep in touch.”…

Keep up the good work.

c.”

>MY COMMENTS: No, YOU keep up the good work. I knew that someone out there would actually take that idea for the pesonals and test it. Great job. Keep refining it and making it better for yourself until you have something that works for you consistently!

…and that about wraps up another mailbag.

I have a lot of guys writing me every week asking me:

“Hey, I have this particular situation… do you think that reading your book will help me?”

My answer is always “Of course.”

I use a lot of metaphores and comparisons to get guys to think of my book as an investment instead of an expense, but here’s the bottom line:

It’s literally taken me YEARS to learn, test, refine, and write down all of the things I’ve learned about how to be more successful with women. I’ve read a lot of books, listened to a lot of tapes, and gone to a lot of seminars… but none of the things I learned worked very well when I tried them.

Let me say that a different way:

I TRIED EVERYTHING I COULD FIND, AND IN THE END I WOUND UP HAVING TO START FROM SCRATCH AND DEVELOP MY OWN SYSTEM.

If I didn’t think I had something unique to say I wouldn’t have written a book, and I wouldn’t be bothering to send out these newsletters.

If you’re ready to actually do something to get this part of your life handled, then I encourage you to download a copy of my eBook. Just go to:

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…and get it. It’s a great investment, and it comes with a 100% satisfaction guarantee: If you’re not satisfied I’ll give you your money back and you can keep the book. Really.

I’ll talk to you again soon.

Your Friend,

David D.

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