mASF post by "esk6969"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, March 3, 2005
On 4/1/05 6:03:00 AM, Chance wrote:
(snipped)
Glad you've got all that "I can see the Matrix" stuff above, but it's mostly
just KJ shit. If it helps you to write it, great, but it should probably go in
off-topic.
Here's where your post starts to get mildly interesting:
> I saw a
>hot girl. I talked to my
>friends for a while,
>maneuvered closer so I didn't
>have to walk across the whole
>room to her, and I approached.
>
Good!
I opened her and
>told her I hadn't seen her say
>a word all night. I asked her
>if she was shy. She was giving
>me googly eyes, giggling,
>stumbling over her words.
Good!
>Drunk AMOG fvckhead to her
>left interrupts and goes "Yeah
>you haven't said much. How you
>doin? Do you want a drink."
>
>I turn my head while he "runs
>his game" on her,
Not so good. You should have employed AMOG tactics, since you properly
recognized him as such. "Hope is not a strategy". You're lucky SHE blew him
out, since that's YOUR job.
I ask her what she'd
>do if I gave her a billion
>dollars.
Not bad, not great. Why not do an attraction game like the Cube or something at
this point? Chicks eat that shit up.
>Of course, she's on the spot,
>and she doesn't know.
And this is why it's not great. Remember the process, EV, then repeat back with
key or trance words. Without EV or similar, how do you know what makes her
click?
She asks
>me. I go into it, and already
>had a pre-planned response
>about how I'm going to..."You're
>looking at the next president
>of the united states."
>
Ummm... ok. That's kinda a little weird. Did you mean it like funny or
something? How does this generate attraction? I'm lost here. Bet she was, too.
the conversation
>shifted from ME screening HER,
>to HER screening ME when she
>asked my question back to me.
Yes. I explained why above.
>
>Well, funny thing happened and
>in the middle of this little
>sililoquy, the SOCIAL PRESSURE
>poured in from all angles and
>infected me.
Weak frame. Stop overthinking this. Stop trickfucking yourself. Here's an idea:
You were at a party. Try having FUN.
>So in the middle of my
>response, my train of thought
>evaporates.
SO...FUCKING...WHAT?! Dude, I'm 33, this happens to me all the time! It only
gets worse as you get older! And it happens to everyone! So what? Hmmm... how
to deal with this... oh wait, I know!:
"Holy shit, I just lost my train of thought!" (laughing. remember, FUN?)
Then: "Hey, I need to get some air. Why don't you come outside with me for a
second." Note that the lack of a question mark at the end of my sentence is NOT
a punctuation error. Not phrased as a question, but rather, a gentle command.
Don't ASK, LEAD. Gently take her hand to pull her through the crowd while
walking away (kino). This leads to isolation + possible venue change. Guess
what happens next?
>
>When one of the AFCs who
>fvcked the drunk girls walks
>out, one of my cool friends is
>super-friendly to him and is
>like "hey man, you're a cool
>guy."
You're right, your friend IS cool. Model and learn from him, how he is secure
in himself, and not jealous of other people's success.
>FUGLY afcs are taking chicks
>to bed with them.
Guess what? They're not AFC's.
And I am
>thinking WHAT THE FVCK. WHAT
>THE MOTHER FVCK. I'm
>supposedly a freaking "PUA"
Ummm... who told you that? Is there a course you pass, or badges they give out
for that?
>and here are these nimrods
>fvcking chicks before my eyes.
Guess what? They're not nimrods. They're getting laid, you're not.
>
>And LOGICALLY I KNOW that
>that's bullsh!t. But in my
>heart of hearts, I felt real,
>tangible disdain and hate for
>those girls. Pity almost, that
>they are such miserable,
>hypocritical creatures.
Total AFC thinking. Go back to the beginning. PUA's do not hate women.
>I did not want to fvck them.
BULLSHIT. You want nothing more than to take one of those "shallow little
sluts" behind the door, and slam your cock inside of their hot, wet, tight,
throbbing little pussies. The first step towards clearing up your attitude is
to be honest with yourself. If you refuse to do that, fine, but don't come here
and lie to us.
Everyone around
>me starts killing themselves
>laughing at the sh!t I'm
>saying,
Yes, laughing AT you, not WITH you.
>Later on I made some comments
>about how girls are giant
>hypocrites and how they make
>me sick...
WOW! That makes me hot. Great seduction talk! Bet the chicks loved it!
>I've tried being this "great
>guy" but the "great guy" is
>overlooked unless he has an
>edge, a bite to him.
Agreed. But that's BITE, not BITTER. See the difference?
(snip more "I see the Matrix" KJ shit below....)
Here is part of a post I made on another board today. It pretty well accurately
describes my outlook. Maybe it will be of some help to you:
EVERYONE engages in some sort of manipulation, gamesmanship, or whatever you
want to call it, in order to get what they want out of relationships, be they
personal or business. I honestly don't view this as a bad thing, it's just the
way things are. I really honestly do conduct both my personal, as well as my
business dealings, according to the WIN/WIN philosophy. BUT- there are TWO
"wins" in that sentence. In other words, it needs to be a win for you - AND win
for me. Not one side benefitting to the exclusion of the other, in *either*
direction.
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