mASF post by "Hedge Killa"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, March 3, 2005On 3/6/05 7:10:45 PM, aidien flea wrote:
Sweet post dude. I like reading stuff from guys who actually go out...lol.
>One of the things I've noticed
>happening, is I'll open a 3
>set, and only one
>of the girls will engage me.
>The other two will literally
>step back as if
>they're gonna let her talk to
>me, and then one of them will
>jump back in to
>drag her away a few minutes
>later. One of the worst of
>these was the 9th set
>I opened that night. A HB8
>engaged me and was showing
>clear IOI's, Kinoing
>me, touching me while she
>laughed, etc. She was really
>into the
>conversation, had her hands on
>me. Of course I'm busting her
>with hands off
>the merchandise, etc. All of a
>sudden one of the girls who
>was originally in
>the set walks over, grabs her
>and says "Hey you have to meet
>my friends."
>And she's like "Wait a sec"
>and the CB is like "No, now!"
>So anyway she
>grabs me and she's like "Wait
>here, I'll be right back I
>just have to go say
>hello." The interaction hadn't
>gone deep enough though where
>I felt it would
>be worth waiting for her. If
>anything I figured I'd see her
>again. So I went
>and helped my wing with a 3
>set he was running. What can I
>do so that the
>whole group engages me, not
>just one of them? I usually
>find this problem in
>places where the music is mad
>loud.
A reasonable answer to this would be "ENGAGE THE GROUP." Is your voice booming
when you go in? What's your eye contact like? When I roll in with an opinion,
my eyes scan the group after I ask the question. This keeps them all engaged
and they stick around.
To troubleshoot: if the two UGs start backing away (again, b/c it probly looks
like you're there for the target ONLY), then tell them to "come here" or pull
them near you or, better yet, LURE them near you with your voice and EC/BL.
Talk juuuust a little lower so they have to lean in or come closer....and be
sure to look at them while in set. Experiment to get it right.
>Her: "I don't like your
>sunglasses, why are you
>wearing them!?" I said to her
>"Do musicians wear ear plugs
>to save their
>ears?" She says "yeah. . ." So
>I go "Ok, so then you'd agree
>that it's fine
>for me to wear these to save
>my eyes." She's like "Save
>them from what." I
>paused, and looked right at
>her and said "The paparazzi."
>She laughed, and
>the set rolled on.
GREAT answer!
>Lots of sets went like this,
>and I kept hitting the brick
>wall that I've
>been facing recently. I can't
>seem to get my sets to go
>passed the
>attraction phase and move into
>rapport. So last night seemed
>like it would
>be more of the same, until I
>ran the 10th set. I was seated
>at a table and
>there was a 3 set behind me, I
>opened them with "Who lies
>more?" And then
>instead of rolling straight
>into the G-string story, I
>asked her what the
>best lie she ever told was.
Nice transition. See what happens when you open 10+ sets a night?? You get
smoother.
>From there I got her joking
>around a bit, and
>then started the g-string
>story. From there we chatted a
>bit more, and she
>actually started seeking
>rapport with me. Asking me
>about school, my name,
>what I do, etc. She suddenly
>says to me "Hey, my friends
>are leaving, I
>gotta go say goodbye to them"
>and went off to the door. Now
>my friends and I
>got up and started leaving a
>few minutes later, and she's
>by the door and I
>can actually hear her saying
>"That's him!" all excited to
>her friends.
>
>This is something that my
>friends have pointed out to
>me, where I'll run a
>set, no close, it goes
>nowhere. But they'll be
>telling me, "Those girls keep
>looking at you dude, what'd
>you say to them." ANd the
>girls will literally
>keep positioning themselves
>right near me. Is it a good
>idea to re-open
>them?
Yeah open them back up. "You guys are trouble" or some variation works fine
(credit Craig or TD?).
>Ran a few more sets after
>that, nothing really went
>anywhere. Then something
>interesting happened. We were
>in Penn Station waiting for
>the train, and I
>opened a 3 set. My wing came
>into set with me, and we're
>just chatting
>having fun. When all of a
>sudden some dude that was with
>them showed up, and
>without saying a word, he
>literally slams his body into
>my wing and
>practically knocks him over.
>The girls and us had been in a
>closed circle.
>This guy musta weighed a
>hundred pounds more than my
>wing, and he was even
>bigger than me. I decided
>rather than fight in front of
>the cops at Penn
>Station, let's try some AMOG
>tactics for the first time.
>THe guy was wearing
>a brown leather jacket with
>the elastic waistband. I start
>saying "Dude,
>this guys cool, that's an
>awesome jacket, where did you
>get it man?" He's
>like, "I don't care about the
>jacket this guy was looking at
>me funny." I go
>"I had one just like it in
>high school, it was my
>favorite jacket, how much
>do you want for it?" He starts
>to say something when one of
>the girls
>actually pushes him out of the
>circle and closes ranks around
>me and my
>wing. The AMOG was totally
>pushed to the outside and just
>stands there
>silently while we continue
>running game on the set.
>Eventually, the only HB
>in the set seemed totally
>disinterested, so we tell them
>we gotta go to the
>bathroom and bounce. In the
>meantime, our third friend was
>standing there
>watching all this. Apparently
>after we walked away the girls
>start SCREAMING
>at the AMOG "Oh my god you're
>such a fucking prick, those
>guys were so much
>fun and you fucking embarassed
>us, etc." CHA CHING! I love it
>folks.
You handled that excellently. I would've went to jail.
>Anyway, I'm just seeking to
>make improvements wherever
>necessary. I gotta
>get out there tommorow night
>and see if I keep hitting this
>wall in the
>attraction phase, or if I can
>start moving into rapport more
>regularly. Any
>advice from you guys is much
>appreciated. Thanks in
>advance.
Again man, great FR. It's awesome that you're in field and not resorting to
rape or extortion to bang chicks. You give me hope for this place. Much love.
Hedge
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