mASF post by "jettiger"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, July 7, 2005I won't go into deep details of all approaches when it's not worth it.
Details: I often show interest. But not too much. Some guys find it needy.
I almost always try to go for gclose. So I am not kind of guy who just opens
and ejects. I think I shouldn't go for gclose anymore when target is not
showing big IOIs.
Gclose: first suggest meeting, then discuss day and time, only then take phone
number.
Thursday: About 30 approaches.
I sarged from 2 pm till 8 pm. Legs were really tired
Openers I used:
Do you know any good clubs to go to around city?
Can you take my picture?
Are you tourists?
Gave flyers of a bar (I took them from HB who was giving them to people) and
gave them to HBs and told:"If you go there you can meet me there. But don't be
too late." (Last two times I used it it got targets interested.)
Approached chick in park who was taking sunbath, with taking her pic.
Two chicks from England and two chicks from USA were really friendly. I didn't
use any super direct stuff. Only attraction and rapport. And it worked well,
but the problem was that they had to leave next day or same day.
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PUAs summit in Vienna begins
Friday: About 5 approaches, cause we had official PUAs meeting and guys wasted
too much time asking shitty questions and telling about basics on workshop.
Fluff took too much time. So I could approach only during breaks. When most
PUAs were talking about game and I was doing the game I really didn't like to
sit there and listen to all this stuff. Because there were only about 5-7
advices that I found useful. And one of them helped me to #close HB Polish
after workshop.
I approach HB Polish and her friend with touch her hands and saying I also want
to drink what she is drinking (beer), just to open her. She brings up light
shield, and says that she doesn't want to get to know to me about 6 times (but
I persist:"I know, but still, tell me something about yourself.") after which
she asks where I come from and it's on. She finds out I was living in Poland
before and we speak Polish. And I data close her under pretext that she could
teach me German and I could teach her Russian (she had to learn it for
university exams).
But good thing was that my motivation to sarge jumped up after meeting other
PUAs. And I didn't have as much problems opening in really crowded places.
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Saturday: about 9 approaches (those which I remember) whole day. I could do 30
but again workshop took too much time. However this time our teacher was BadBoy
from Croatia and it was more interesting and I found it much more useful. Guys
asked so much obvious, simple questions. Yeah, I was also uncofident like that
some time ago. Only after one and half year on mASF I started trying to ask all
questions to myself and could approach in most venues.
One chick from two set almost called police cause one guy from PUAs asked
her:"Do you wanna fuck?". They were from USA
1. Can you take my picture? Yea. She can. But she must go to shoppings and she
can meet me only if it happens accidentally. But I tell her that in such case
we will never meet, and I go to PUAs meeting point .
2. Do you look always so beautiful? (As a neg, means I don't believe she looks
always so beautiful). Some two guys selling some stuff approache and blow up my
set. They think they can scare me. One was staring in my eyes, like he was
Bruce Lee. It was pretty funny. As I could just fuck them both up, one after
another (verbally and physically). But I don't need that. However it was good
verbal AMOGging practice.
3. Me and Sven enter set of ASFer, sorrryy! and I thought just to teach him
how to deal with AMOGs (he knew us) but he gave up too quickly. And when I was
AMOGGed I always liked it, and I tried to blow AMOGs out. Cause it's good
practice for me.
4. I open tourist and we have a bit rapport but she is leaving tomorrow or
tonight.
5. I open chick in phone booth. Inspite that there is free booth just in half
meter Me:"Excuse me I need to call."
Her:"I have already ended talking." She walks out and I follow her and say I
was just kidding and she doesn't understand, I ask if she speaks Russian (she
had such accent) and she does! So I speak Rusian and bang she is into me. From
what she tells, she is exotic dancer or something. Body is good but face about
6.5 ..still I am more after body and she is VERY fuckable on average day if I
don't have better prospects. I KINO her a bit to let her know that I am not
LJBF kind of guy and not to make her horny. She just came to Vienna. And she
wants someone to show her the city.
6. I open chick working in jewelry shop and talk until she finds out that I
just want to get to know to her. then convo dies.
7. I tryBadBoy's opener. Turn chick around and pretend that I didn't like her
face. I didn't have time to proceed cause break during workshops was ending,
and as I walked further I heard them talking and laughing.
8. I open chicks who give flyers with:"Take my picture." but it doesn't go any
far. Too needy.
9. 5set. Broverho approaches with direct and I approach with can you take my
pic. One HB says: I call police if you don't call police. after I take her
picture I get bitchy reaction and I go all jerk style.
Me: WTF? I just asked you if she can take my pic.
Her: I can call the police.
Me: Fine. CALL THE POLICE!!! Or better. I'LL call the police.
Her: And what?
Me: I'll say that you are rude with me.
Her: And what?
Me: OK. You call the police and what? What? What? What?
what,what,what,what,what,what? (All this time we are having ALPHA EC contest
she thinks she can intimidate me.)
She says I am like a jerk.
Me: I am like jerk cause you are impolite with me. (Lot of these HBs from
Vienna are arrogant.)
So I unfortunately mess up good situ that broverho got and I eject he also. (I
didn't know if he got good reaction.)
But he couldn't approach a chick in subway. Broverho! Next time do it just for
exercise. Just for pushing limits. Did I tell you I will write it in FR?
10. Opened asian chicks who were REALLY SHY. Shown more interest than needed.
11. Opened two Finnish chicks. And told them that I heard that finnish chicks
are feministic No attraction. I wasn't a prize.
12. Green peace chick. Game just for practice. I guess it shined through. No
she doesn't want to meet me. She have a BF
I can sarge much better when I have strictly defined goal in sarge, have good
sleep and play in Global Operations before sarge mission. This day I sarged
just for sake of sarging or meet closing, + improving game. But didn't aim for
using specific techniques or improving specific sides of my game.
I don't like writing too much, when it concerns basics. But when it comes to
advanced stuff I invented I can write for much longer time.
I just took this bootcamp to motivate myself for more approaches, cause I am
too lazy mofo sometimes.
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Sunnyday Actually it was a bit raining. (Best part of report is in end.)
We have discussion with RazorJack and lot of guys ask some questions. As for
me, I am more interested in practice. As I learn best on practice. YEAHHHH. And
I love to push guys through their FOA (fear of approaching) and make them
approach HBs. ARGH.
And I didn't like it when someone from summit who sarged with me while I opened
the set was trying to leave me out of convo and treating it like a verbal
contest. There is no verbal contest. You don't get any shit simply by words.
But what you subcommunicate by tonality, EC and BL is much more important,
cause you can say "leave me alone" in a sexy way if you change your intonation,
so it doesn't mean what it should mean anymore. The same thing if you talk as
confident person while your BL/ EC/ voice tonality and what you say are not
congruent with this image.
ASF guys are feeding and eating lot of BS. Just try it for one week - devote
all time you devoted before for reading mASF, to sarging. It is a challenge
isn't it? Well if you are afraid to approach, what the hell are you doing on
mASF. Better earn lot of money and every HB will run after you, cause you will
have right attitude then.
If you are not the prize in your mind you will never be a prize in mind of HBs
no matter what routines you use.
Anyway lecture is over for non-confident guys.
Here is out f#ck*ng standing report for you:
Morning: I was going to market just to take a look at some stuff. In bus I was
sitting like a fucki&5ng someone whom every woman would like to fuck, I sat in
place with biggest free area around. Three chairs around me empty, two behind
empty. And funny thing that
there comes one MILF and sits not even in front of me but to my right, so she
is in 20 cm from me. I don't move my legs away, so our legs touch each other.
If she doesnt like it - ha she can move her legs away! But she doesn't. I just
don't have time and motivation to sarge her (she is about 40 y.o., body 7.7,
face 6.5 ), but I learned a funny thing out of it: when I was standing up I
laid hand on her knee and used it to raise myself as if her leg was arm of a
chair. lol. I didn't hear any objection, I would hear it thought I was
listening to music. The thing is, when HB is sitting close to you, use her knee
to support yourself when standing up, like you are preparing to leave and then
stop and sit down and say:"You know when I did this (lay arm on her knee and
elevate yourself) I felt like I was sitting in chair." or just something like
it is hard for you to stand up and her knee made it comfortable.
I didn't have time to approach any HB between breaks during discussion. But
when I walk out with Victor, we open some chicks. One is cold. I guess trying
nice but confident guy's style would be better on her, cause she was like
pretending not to hear us.
I nonverbally open 3set with taking bottle of cola from their table in cafe.
And then I give it back. Just for fun. Her friends laugh. They all were 5 and 6
though.
I open two set buying cigarettes with:"Do you speak english? You know you could
buy me cigarettes." They:"No." Me:"Or give me few." HB brunette gives me two
cigarettes. I dont's smoke and I reply with:"No thanks. I just quit smoking few
seconds ago."
I tell Victor to help, so he helps, but they are hurrying and don't wanna talk
for long. They were 7.9 - 8.5.
Next target Victor approaches her and she is a bit scared and walks away. I
tell him to try a polite guy style, and tell that he didn't want to scare her
but just wanted to get to know to her. He keeps disctance about 2 meters. Good.
It works, and he gets her phone number. I would give her 9 points.
We talk a bit. He got train and he leaves.
I open HB with confidently looking in here eyes and saying:"I like you and I
want to get to know to you.Tell me smth about yourself." We talk a bit then she
pretends she is a lesbian. I smell BS. I enter subway and I see one guy from
summit. We talk and then I open HB using her bag:"Where did you get it?
bla-bla-bla." Guy walks out for meeting. and I continue sarge:"This question
about bag was just to talk to you. Cause I wanted to get to know to you."
Her:"I know."
I don't push for rapport and wait till she reinitiates convo. She asks how old
I am. I make her guess it from second try. It was a weak number close but still
anything is possible. I asked if she wants to meet me. When she said:"Maybe we
will acidentally meet in the street." I said:"Maybe I will call you and we will
meet."
Her:"Do I have to give you my phone number?" it was more of a test than
question.
I said:"It's your choice"
Her:"OK. I can give it to you." I take number but she doesn't let me goodbye
kiss her cheek. Not enough attraction and rapport perhaps. It was about 6
minutes number close.
I go right away to Donauinselfest. The place where we should have been making
our summit. TONS OF HBS walking on this celebration and I was sitting and
listening how guys talked about PU. Fine training is good but not when there
are super crowds of HOT BABES.
GUESS WHAT? I see guys from Vienna lair going to same place. wooow. We go
togetha. This who stuff is in big park on island and there are lot of concerts,
and cafes and such stuff.
I push them to open some HBs. I already criticized them so I wont do it here. I
open walking HB (they had shield) with laying hand on her shoulder and walking
like I am her friend. Attitudes I conveyed was:"I can touch you. I am not
scared of you." It got me more attraction than to my wing. But I ejected cause
I didn't want to walk after them all the time. I see sitting Turkish HBs. Open
them, but they say they don't like other than Turkish guys, they were friendly
though. One of them bought herself a rose. I dont know, maybe its to make her
BF jealous or scare off AFCs.
I see laying three set with one guy. Two fucking HBs are laying dere for
meeeeee to JUMP ON THEM!!! HAHAHAH. I have so much energy now I could approach
100 women in a day. Guy goes somewhere. Bang, bang. I open them. Whoa. Wait he
comes back and stares at me in alpha way. I ask target, is dat your BF?? She
say it her older brother. Aha. I talk to her more, wings are looking around and
not opening anyone. Then when I tell them to:"just have fun"they enter my set
and take over it MMM. I am not angry but they should learn by opening sets
themselves, and not by stealing them rom me. Right? It's hard for me to speak
German so I just remain silent and then I see targets brother all alone. I talk
to him and get to know to him better. I ask him if he minds if I get to know to
his sister (it is better to connect to her brother isnt it ) he jokes that I
have no chance and she have too much BFs. Later he says:"You can try it. But it
depends on how she will like you." Yeah. I didn't think that he is the key to
become her fuck buddy. I just wanted to see if he finds me OK. Well brother is
a cool guy. Sportsman.
But I don't like target anymore she wasn't paying me enough attention and I neg
target:"I think your brother is more interesting than you."
Her:"Why?"
Me:"We have lot in common, we both like sports." He finds it funny and smiles.
then I switch to second girl and now wings can just watch. I use palm reading,
I describe guy she would like to meet while embedding qualities I convey. It's
like small hipnosys. And she says:"Who wouldn't like to meet such guy?" Yeah
you are my baby!
Wings want to eject but I don't want.
Then I say:"You will meet such guy, but if you keep thinking that there will be
better one and waiting for him, then he might never come, and you might wish
that you used opportinities you let slip away." Whole this time I am reading
her palm. AND she knows I am just telling her what she wants to hear. But she
eats it up like a chocolate! And whole this time I am holding her hand tenderly
and touch it with another hand. Brother of ex-target gioes to listen to rock
music.
Ola-la. I always thought local chicks were fucked up. I was just opening them
wrong way. When one style doesn't work try other style, on same target,
reapproach her few times if needed. Thats persistence. If she says fuck off
that is just persistence you must overcome.
Then I sit next to her and ask if I can practice massage on her cause my
massage trainer told me to practice at home. She agrees and I give her turning
on massage. Later she says:"It was wonderful." and she holds my hand. I just
met her and she should have big ASD. And her female friend is there with my two
wings. Why is she so fast? I know why, but according to what society says - she
can't take lead. See what comes next.
I aks her to make me a massage, and God does she know how to turn me on just by
massage. Shit she sits on me while I lay on my belly. I am feeling myself with
her like I am her BF or lover. Damn, too big rapport for me, too quickly. No
words, just EC, KINO and voice tonality gave us such rapport. Then I thank her
and say we could continue massage later. Then I lay on back and she is still on
top. I compliment on massage skills. And what? She SLOWLY leans in and starts
kissing me. But not makeout, just light kissing. Right there her friend can see
but she pretends that its allright. How much stuff chicks can pretend not to
see if they feel that their friend is really into it. When I suggest that we
can do it in another place she says she doesn't have any other place. She is
living in another city. She was a bit drunk. It gave this chick so much
confidence to start kissing me. But it was more right target than super
seduction, so I still must learn how to do it with sober chicks in clubs. I
guess I will use same structure.
I told her we can walk down to river and kiss there. (To make fclose possible)
But she was really resistant.
So I get light kissing session.I don't get horny as it is ot place to be horny.
There is her friend, and if I losed control she might just draw her away. So
our kissing was like telling each other that we like each other. I tried to
keep sexual pressure down. I could escalate if situation would allow.
I forget how quickly time passes by. I tell them that I really need to go.
Target says bye and wants to goodbye kiss me. I ask if she wants to meet me
later. Yes she wants. I take her phone number. I tonguedown her really deeply
and strongly and passionately, and then at moment when my embrace is most
strong I break kiss and she knows I must go. She kisses me on cheek. Thanks for
kissing, my lady. I hope she will come to Vienna soon. I really liked her
confidence.
And while most guys just sit there and read mASF I just practice, but how much
more I get by little things like masage or palm-reading, than learning all
methods and thinking like Intel Pentium procesor:"What next!"
Before I was on summit I was having like only 20% motivation to approach girl
in any place. After I met all these guys from mASF and saw them sarging my
motivation became like 90% I still don't enjoy hitting on every HB that I see,
cause it deprives me of my prize mentality. But if I really want to get to know
to her I will really try to make it even if there are hundreds of people
around.
Hahaha,it was funny to see different guys from summit after it ended. It
reminded about how there lot of us
When I was leaving the summit I felt myself much more focused on PU and just
example. Before summit began I didn't have any number of HB, I used all of them
before and didn't have any new ones. I just blamed it on city and local HBs.
While when summit began I got at least one or two gcloses a day. And it totally
crushed my limiting beliefs.
Happy f#cking end players and playettes. Who approach like mucho - get makeouts
and lays, who doesn't - they get something else ;)
Decide who you are.
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Don't talk, just sarge
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