mASF post by "ox"
posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, June 6, 2005On 6/3/05 11:32:00 AM, formhandle wrote:
>Dimitri wrote:
>
>>...
>
>This could have been a good
>thread but somehow got turned
>into a discussion about type
>of game in the context of
>teaching versus an overall
>look at the process.
>
>Frankly, all you guys (I'm not
>singling you out Dimitri, my
>focus is broad) who work to
>get paid teaching PU to others
>can talk and talk and talk
>endlessly about how good your
>skills are or how good your
>teaching methods are but I
>lost count how many times my
>thoughts drift to "OK OK
>you've got to market yourself,
>you've got a business, yadda
>yadda, but the people I
>actually want to hear from in
>this context (of biz promo)
>are guys who've taken your
>program who (before it) were
>barely getting laid or not at
>all and then starting actually
>getting laid more & on their
>terms with the kind of girls
>they like." In terms of
>placing value on yourselves,
>teaching, promoting, etc, it's
>like automobile commercials.
>Toyota doesn't make
>commercials with the message
>"Our cars suck". So it's like
>empty content to everyone when
>the goal is self-promotion.
>Let your students do the
>talking in that regard. I
>want to hear from them - and I
>don't mean the guys who
>finished a program just a week
>prior and wants to post his
>experience and we never hear
>from him again. I mean guys
>who had real issues before in
>terms of social skill or PU
>ability and went through your
>programs and had a real
>improvement that lasted and
>how he was able to do that.
>
>What I hope you guys would
>desire to talk about, like
>anyone else on the site, is
>just stuff you do yourself in
>the field and there is no
>point in saying "My way of
>doing things is the right way,
>all others be damned." Every
>time I read that I think the
>person posting is full of
>himself. His method may be
>great but nobody has all the
>answers.
>
>I could subtract all the "this
>way is better than that" posts
>from mASF and the forum would
>not lose anything valuable.
>
>Seriously, I would encourage
>people to skim the Reviews
>board and take a look at lost
>of threads and then think "OK,
>so many reviews of all these
>guys, but how many of the
>people who reviewed these guys
>had problems before and are
>now getting laid regularly on
>their terms?" Seriously - I
>encourage people to dig
>through the review board to
>find guys who've had just that
>kind of improvement.
i do. i was getting laid before the boot camp with loverboy and i am getting
laid more consistantly now...
>
>I can barely find any. If
>they are out there, they're
>not sharing what happened to
>them and that is exactly the
>kind of people I am interested
>in hearing from.
probably busy getting laid or something. for me it is a pain in the ass to
write fr/lr´s here. i take about an hour and a half to write them. i do it for
the clarification of ideas, the sarges and the motivation from the
board(sometimes flame).
And I don't
>want to hear "Before I took
>this I sucked, now I rock"
yeah. you are gonna hear it from me. i rock now. i have been pulling ass
everyweek after the boot camp with lb. i dont know how it happened. i only know
it is happening. it is incredible even for me. it turned out during the
bootcamp that my tonality was off. i fixed that. my inner game» was off after
rejections. i fixed that. a huge inner game» improvement was to see "how it is
done" as oposed to "reading how it is done". i believe you dont get that from
the board. kind of a "see it to believe it". now when i read archives i get
more depths because i understand what the puas are talking about.
i didnt suck before the bootcamp with lb. but i am way better now. i
specifically asked him to teach me indirect and group approaches. he only did
what i asked him to do. fair enough. Paid or not paid this pu teachers here are
doing a service for money. i believe students can get better after a bootcamp.
i am sure most lack the consistency to try this night after night. that´s why
they dont get results.
bootcamps help the students. no question about it. to say the contrary, it is
absurd.
, I
>want to hear exactly what
>changes the guy made, the kind
>of behavior he adjusted, the
>process he went through, his
>experiences, and ultimately
>the path he went through that
>incited the change both inside
>& outside which got results
>for him.
As i type this one of my fb´s did my shopping and clean my house after i fucked
her last night...well. this is the kind of results we want....and pay for.
true i would like hotter girls. who doesn´t? i lay girls between 5-8 range. but
again as an afc i couldnt even approach a fattie.
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