mASF post by "Kthulah"
posted on: USENet: alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, June 6, 2002John Fereira wrote:
>
> GoddessBaybee <god***e@ya***.com[ ? ]> wrote in
> news:aed***5@dr***.com[ ? ]:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>, John says...
> >>
> >>GoddessBaybee <god***e@ya***.com[ ? ]> wrote in
> >>news:ae8***b@dr***.com[ ? ]:
> >>
> >>> In article <[email protected]>, jjd***d@en***.com[ ? ] says...
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> T. Goddessbabe aka Brittany Spears is a bartender that prick teases
> >>>> married men for tips. It's how she makes her living. She has to look
> >>>> for someone to look down on in order to feel shes not the bottom of
> >>>> societys barrel. Those women from other country sites are the
> >>>> equivalent of americas match.com only the women are on average far
> >>>> more educated. Unlike Goddessbabe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Babe when you shag my next beer shake your ass and I'll consider
> >>>> flippin ya a qwuata.
> >>>>
> >>>> She's also getting sport humped by a canadian for gods sake.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Jeem, HTH
> >>..
> >>>
> > <snip>
> >>> He then claimed I am uneducated, but he doesn't know the first thing
> >>> about my educational status.
> >>
> >>He probably knows about as much about your educational status as you
> >>know about his wife.
> >
> > <boggle>
> > hey john,
> > i've said straight out that i dont know the specifics of
> > ol' jeembo and the missus's relationship.
> >
> > In article <a6q***s@dr***.com[ ? ]>,
> > GoddessBaybee <god***e@ya***.com[ ? ]> wrote:
> > "I don't know (and I don't care) if your wife is
> > in fact a mail-order bride. If you are sensitive about people taunting
> > you about the "mail-order-bride" issue, then maybe you shouldn't run
> > around mouthing-off and taunting others regarding their
> > relationships...."
>
> I don't think that paragragh comes across as impartial as you're now trying
> to come off. Let's change a few words and see if this looks to you like
> something that was written by someone impartial and non-judgemental.
>
> > "I don't know (and I don't care) if you are
> > in fact a lesbian. If you are sensitive about people taunting
> > you about the "gay" issue, then maybe you shouldn't run
> > around mouthing-off and taunting others regarding their
> > relationships...."
> >
> >>While I haven't actually met the lovely Mrs. Dutton myself I know quite
> >>a few people whose opinions I trust that have. From all reports she's
> >>very charming, quite gorgeous, quite educated, and comes from a *very*
> >>wealthy family.
> >
> > <doubleboggle>
> > ...even if Mrs. D. is in fact a "mail order bride"
> > i dont think that would imply that Mrs. D. aint a charming, gorgeous
> > and educated woman. I personally wouldn't suggest that she isn't.
>
> ...even if you are a lesbian I think that I would imply that you might not
> be attractive an intelligent.
>
> You're essentially strongly implying that she is a mail order bride (she
> isn't) without categorically stating that she is. A semantantical
> difference, maybe, but from where I'm sitting the intent seems to be the
> same.
>
> >
> >>The other stereotype which you eluded to was the implication that if
> >>someone Marries a woman from a poorer country, he is doing so out of
> >>desparation because he is unable to attract a quality woman from this
> >>country. As I have seen with my own eyes the kind of woman he's
> >>managed to attract long before he met his wife, I know for a fact that
> >>Jeem doesn't have that problem.
> >
> > hey john, I've read more than a couple of your articles,
> > and you seem fairly level headed to me...so i want to ask you a couple
> > o' questions (i dont really care if you answer 'em publicly or not)
> > i guess i just want you to think about 'em.
>
> Ok, shoot.
>
> >
> > first, jim dutton wrote regarding the women on the
> > "russian women catalog"* sites
> >
> > "Those women from other country sites are the equivalent of
> > americas match.com only the women are on average far more educated."
> >
> > from your perspective, do you think that's a true statement?
>
> From my perspective, I really don't have enough information to go on. I've
> never looked at match.com or a russian women catalog so my perspective on
> the educational status from either forum would by entirely based on
> hearsay. Just as a general impression though, when personal ads have been
> posted in newsgroups that I read from Russian woman I have noticed a
> general tendency of claims which indicate a high level of education whereas
> when I've seen personal ads posted by American woman, typically educational
> status isn't even mentioned. The only conclusion that I can draw from that
> is that perhaps Russian women feel that their educational status is a more
> important criteria for "selling themselves" as a potential mate than
> American women seem to rate it.
> >
> > specifically, do ya think russian women tend to be better educated than
> > their american counterparts?
>
> Again, I really don't have enough evidence to make such a determination.
> Just out of curiosity, why is this important to you? Frankly, the level of
> formal education isn't an important criteria to me. I've been in long term
> relationships with women with little formal education and am married to a
> woman that holds a PhD in clinical psychology.
>
> > even if you agree with that part, do you think that's the *ONLY*
> > significant difference?
>
> No, I don't, but that perspective is likely based mostly on stereotypes.
> That's primarily based on the criteria upon which the users of those system
> use for selecting a mate. My general sense is that the most important
> criteria for women posting their profiles on the mail order bride site is
> that the person they are looking for is living in the U.S.. However women
> seeking men on U.S. based sites typically want someone in close proximity,
> but criteria such as physical appearance, age, financial responsibility
> (which I don't necessarily conclude as meaning "filthy rich"), basic
> philosophies about family or religion, and general personality traits (must
> have a good sense of humor), all seem to play a more important role.
> Again, that's must my general sense.
>
> >
> > * btw, i'm not trying to be derogatory by calling it a "russian women
> > catalog"
> > That is actually what the site we were discussing calls itself.
> > "http://www.russian-women-catalog.com/"
> > other sites mentioned in this thread are called
> > "http://www.bridesbymail.com/"
> > "http://www.mailorderbrides.com/"
> >
> > Dutton initiated this episode of our lil flame war because I said
> > (regarding the mail-order-bride sites) that those women were hoping to
> > re-locate from a poorer nation to a wealthier nation via marriage.
> >
> > I don't think that's a controversial statement.
>
> I don't think it is either...when taken out of context. When put into the
> context of round one of your lil flame war, and the implication that his
> wife is a mail order bride, I'm not surprised that he responded. What I
> *have* noticed is that after round one of your lil flame war, you both went
> back to your corners for awhile but you've both been poking at each other.
> I know that Jeem has never been hesitant to partake in a bit of virtual
> fist-i-cuffs and from the looks of it, you don't seem to be crying uncle
> too quickly either.
>
> >
> > The next question, i want to ask you is...
> > ..can you honestly say the comments i've made about jeem and his family
> > are worse than the comments jeem's made about me and my family?
> >
> > how about the comments 'ol jeembo makes regularly regarding countless
> > other posters and their families?
> >
> Jeem makes a lot of "yo momma" cracks.
I would like to nominate the above sentence for soc.singles-sycophant
understatement of the year.
> That's hardly news. If he didn't
> get a reaction from them I doubt that he would continue to do it.
That has not been my observation.
> From the
> perspective that I have actually met Jeem on several occasions as well as
> at least part of his family, I can see any comments made about him and his
> family in a different context. You would really have to experience Jeem in
> real life, hear his voice, and see how he interacts with other people to
> understand.
What part of Jeem is it that we (as in the people he has chosen to
continually shame himself over online) are we not seeing?
Are you calling him a liar, who is purposefully deceiving people about
his thoughts of them?
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