mASF post by "toecutter"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, January 1, 2002Okay, Rio ... I have no answers on this one ... only thoughts. Follow me
here for a second.
I never really bought into the SOI thing fully. It is counter to my
intuition. I believe they have a time and a place (like when she is going
flakey), but as a general rule, it doesn't work for me. So jump off now and
read an old thought on it from a post of mine "Re: De-lurking"
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=retrieve&grp=1&mn=982
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Okay ... you understand why in that scenario the SOI would have fucked
things up completely?
Another question: how old (or mature) was this girl? In my experience, the
younger ones are more likely to do this than girls at mid 20s and above.
Consider this: she is young and sexually inexperienced. Consider this: she
doesn't get flattered like this very often. Consider this further: you could
have withheld flattery as bait to get her in bed. Consider this also:
perhaps all the making out with her was flattery too. How about this one:
she gains no additional flattery by actually fucking you. She is already a
big girl. She is already like the girls in Cosmo magazine. She doesn`t need
to actually take all the risks involved in real sex. She is getting the
rewards already. Consider this: young girls who are inexperienced in bed are
in PAIN during sex. Young girls are incapable of virginal orgasms and
restricted to clitoral. How about this one: the only reason some young girls
will have sex is so that a man can validate them as a fully fledged and
desirable adult woman. Guess what? You gave her all those things already. Of
course she would come around. Of course she would enjoy it. Of course she
would accept all that flattery without giving anything in return. It is HER
CHARMS that caused all those SOIs and flattery, afterall, no? Isn`t she the
big girl now? Isn`t she the siren? Isn`t she the heartbreaker? Doesn't she
drive the guys crazy just like the girls from Dolly magazine? Cant she get
away with outrageous flirting? Didn't this whole situation get her heart
pumping with the thrill of the chase and the danger of the situation that
she got her self into? Isn't she the one in control ... look at how she
could walk away from the situation. "I am not a little girl. I am like
Brittany Spears." Okay, that said ... lets look within:
<Neo-Rio> wrote in message
> The cute white one was incredibly enthusiastic about coming down to my
place
> (a good 2 hours) to see me. So I was pleased, and I fully intended to make
> it worth her while (She is at least an 8). I SOIed her silly before she
even
> came down, indirectly, but she knew what the story was for today's
> activities. She had no reason to doubt that at all. AND she came with a
> smile on her face.
That is the smile of a girl being flattered. THe smile of a young girl in an
adult situation. The smile of how much of a Cosmo girl she is.
>
> Meet her at the station. Kino and holding hands begins straight away. I
feel
> that this may be an easy lay - but I remember that chicks who come on
easily
> are hard to fuck. I guess she was no exception to the rule. I am holding
> hands with her, no resistance. It is even reciprocal. She is dressed
> somewhat conservatively (uh-oh).
She doesnt even have to dress sexy to get all this attention. What a cosmo
girl!
>
> I decide to skip the coffee shop and go straight to my place. No problem
> with this whatsoever. I figure I can elicit her a bit further there and
get
> her horny there rather than waste time at the coffee shop.
>
> Anyway, we get back to my place, and already kino is really good. I get a
> kiss on her and a toungue down. I try and move a bit further than that,
but
> she's laughing smiling, obviously enjoying it. Puts up a lot of
resistance.
> I ignore it for a while - and then I back off and try again later. I get a
> bit further this time. Now she is backing up altogether and saying that
she
> wants to have a look around outside. I ignore this for a while, and stall
> her. (I say I'm getting ready, go into the other room, wait ages, check my
> computer out, then go back to her feel her up. Cycle starts again.) The
mood
> is good, and I still feel I can fuck the chick. This goes on a few times.
>
> After a while though, the chick gets herself up and actually puts her coat
> back on (Not before I've felt her crotch out a bit) I proceed to try and
get
> it off again, but it's not happening. I stall the whole time, and
eventually
> she starts rubbing my chest in the mood to have a look outside. (I sense
> this is a shit test) So I rub her tits back.
Now you are throwing flattery and attention at her like there is no
tommorrow. She is doing her part well. The coyer she is, the more attention
she gets. Okay ... I am going to stop with a simple analysis for a second
and tell you what I do with young girls (like 18 - 20). I break up the make
out sessions. I get up to go to the toilet in the middle ... and fuck around
a bit while I am there. She is sitting there in the couch waiting. Alone.
Take aways. 10 minutes more with her, and I want to change the music. But I
cant find the disc. I leave her sitting there in her bra with her shirt off.
I break it up. Throw off her rythem. I NEVER SOI. EVER. One SOI will loose
her. I tell her she is too little. I tell her she is not big enough to suck
a dick. Her: "I am so, I have given a lot of headjobs!" Me: No you havent.
You are just a kid. Her: I have so. Me (pulling dick out of pants): "Okay,
proove it!" What can she say? I still havent given her an SOI and she is
sucking my dick. In my opinion people underestimate how little 18-21 year
olds are. They are for the most part sexually inexperienced kids. Especially
those in first year of University. Man, they are straight out of high
school. Could count the times they have had sex on one hand. Yet suddenly
they are at uni with their big breasts and semi adult features, and acting
like women. They aint. They are kids. Treat them as such and you do better.
(the 18 year olds in trailer parks are probably a differnet story. Give her
real sexual experience and the whole thing changes).
I think I am done. My opinion on what went on here anyway, but I might be
completely wrong. I suggest you revisit your SOI concept.
toecutter.
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