mASF post by "celic_hardrod"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, January 1, 2005
>you need a guideline too. if you have the set laughing and you don´t know what
>to do next, you are gonna stall. if you have the number and don´t know what to
>do chances are small that you are going to lay this girl.
>you don´t need a plan, this would kill the pick up. You need a guideline
>its not like open, routine, 2 routine, 3 routine 4 routin, blah blah blah.....
>PU is getting to point A to B to C, lots of people forget this.
>if you are already at B you can´t continue with A, only because its in your
>plan.
See, I haven't yet figured out how this works. I am almost finished
reading 'WIthout Embarrasment' by Mike Pilinski, and he talks in the
book about a guy's fear of approaching women being caused by 'toxic
shame.' While that may be true to some extent for every guy, a lot of
my fear stems from the fact that I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I'M DOING.
In other words, I don't fear being rejected on the initial approach, I
just don't want to open some chick, get her attention, and either just
stand there saying nothing while she looks at me wondering what the
fuck is going on, or else stuttering like a retard because I have NO
IDEA what to say to her.
I have opened girls before, even had them laughing ... but then what?
One of my wings was even giving me shit when I had a 2-set laughing
and then ejected, and he was like "Dude, you ejected way too early!"
But the truth is, I had no idea where to go - my mind just drew a
complete blank. From there, I guess several possibilities exist.
Eitther you could try to ilicit values, get her to talk about
feelings, be cocky & funny and bust her balls, etc. But it's all so
GENERAL. Hell, I've been introverted all my live and this sort of
thing does not come natural to me at ALL. It's like trying to learn
how to play a fighting game, and somebody tells you "Ok, here's how to
win at this game - it has a combo system whereby you can chain
multiple moves together and nail your opponent without them being able
to react. This combo system is activated by a sequential series of
button presses and joystick movements." And in the case of seduction,
I am simply trying to figure out what those button presses are.
I think I understand the OVERALL process, but I have no idea how to
segway from approaching and getting her attention to gaining rapport
or what to say once I get that far. Because of this, it's very hard to
open anyone when the only thing I know to do after the initial
approach is to just stand there with a thumb up my ass. I mean, not
like I can transition from introducing myself to the incredible
connection pattern.
I know that the general wisdom is that having something pre-scripted
is akin to riding a bike with training wheels, but hell ... anything
would be better than nothing. Up until now, I've studied a few systems
(Speed Seduction», DYD, etc) and I've got all this information in my
head, scattered ... and the logical sequence of things is just too
damn generic.
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