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mASF post by "Pnutt"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, July 7, 2005

==-aright, so if you dont wanna read the whole thing, maybe just pick out a
paragraph and try to help with that one?

man ive really been running well lately... attraction is easy, rapport is
easy... i havent had the chance to practice closing bc of my ltr.. love her.
BUT, i think there may be something wrong fundamentally with my game...

i do extreme cf.. call girls out on liking me, hitting on me, put on puppy dog
charm face all the time. and it works for the most part. but problems that have
just recently started reoccuring is that when i do things like this, in the
moment theyre totally into it, and i think thats because emotions are high so
the pathway is clear for this. then they go home, calm down, emotion is lost
and they think 'this guy thinks i like him, thats arrogant (not in a good way)
hes a tool he thinks everyone likes him etc. just a theory, but it seems to be
whats happening.. im still trying to find out the pattern, because it could be
a number of things. it kicks up attraction, but in the long term i think its
destructive.

ALSO, after awhile, theres nowhere to go. you can only run this kind of game
for so long until you run out of places to go. we get it. youre cocky, youre
funny. all the girls like you. what else can you give me. ive been trying
rapport, but it doesnt seem to be moving the interaction along and it seems to
maybe only myself hopefully, but that its backtracking and trying to hard.
like, for some reason i feel they can see my gears turning and thinking oh
shit, ive got nothing else, i better go for comfort and trust. i think another
part of this problem is due to the fact that i have nowhere to go because i
cannot fuck these girls. im in my ltr and its like... well what do you want. we
cant have sex. i mean, obviously, that would be the smartest idea to move it
along; to close, but i mean.. i cant do that. so maybe thats part of it.

ANOTHER problem, is i think cf in an extreme way as ive been using it makes me
come off too much like a player. im sure theres been stuff on this site about
how to get past that. i know girls secretly like players and its a turn on, but
how DO you get past that? like, its NOT just a shit test for some girls... they
dont take you seriously if you come off like a player. do you still just take
it as a bigger shit test and just agree with it and proceed? like, when i get
that vibe that thats what they think, i go running back to rapport. and i think
thats shitty, sloppy, and plain unsolid.

another problem, is I think its putting it out too much. i think theres
something dramatic about NOT knowing if you like each other, and at the same
time aknowledging that she does is a great emotion amp.

AND, this is the final problem... when you assume that the girl likes you, and
its verbalized, its like everything is SHUT OFF. COMPLETELY. emotion can be
running rampant but if that comes out, its game over. like, i guess it still
works in a cf way, and it has, and still does, but i think if you come out and
logically say that it fucks it up. do i forget completely about aknowledging
this (which is a key part of my game) or do i go with it and just make sure it
comes at very oppurtune times and has gotta be funny as hell? i mean i suppose
i could switch the frame up and go from aknowledging like td and commenting on
the bodylanguage and the interaction like td does, and instead go with more cf
romantic frames like kooper.

if you read this, sorry. please help.



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