mASF post by "Magnus"
posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, June 6, 2005
I've recently been reading a book called 'Power vs Force' by David Hawkins. If
you find this post interesting, it's a book you'll find most enlightening.
Here is a summary of its immediate implications.
Everyone lives at a certain emotional level. From day to day you jump up and
down through the levels as you react to various events, but in general,
people's lives are fixed at a certain level.
The levels are:
Shame, Guilt, Apathy, Grief, Fear, Desire, Anger, Pride, Courage, Neutrality,
Willingness, Acceptance, Reason, Love, Joy, Peace, Enlightenment.
(Interestingly, any sort of Self-Help works to raise a person permanently
through this scale, in a particular area of their life or across their whole
life. This is not the topic of this post.)
Recently I have noticed something in thinking in terms of these levels about
myself and various girls. Essentially, attraction to and success with a
particular girl seems to depend heavily on how close she is to me on the scale.
I often find that I don't bother approaching a particular set, even though they
are physically attractive, I don't like the energy about them. Experience has
proved this judgement right. I'm pretty sure I'm not backwards rationlising
approach anxiety, as I often approach the set anyway and get blown out or lose
interest myself. (In fact, in situations like last night, if I'd trusted this
intuition I'd have stuck with the right girl)
When you think about the successful couples you know, are they around the same
emotional level? The ones I know are, almost without exception.
I know a couple who are both obsessed with Pride - both very good looking,
fitness fanatics, into home improvement etc. Another couple are around the
level of Reason & Love, they are all about working hard at their jobs and
taking holidays and enjoying life. Actual interests, hobbies, tastes, matter
much less than similarity on the tone scale.
Most people in the world are generally existing around the middle of this
scale. When guys find this site they are often somewhere between Shame and
Anger, at least in relation to any part of their life relating to girls.
People below the level of Pride don't tend to hook up much, because they still
have standards, and though other people at the same level are compatible, they
are not attractive to them. Instead they idolise people at higher levels, but
they have nothing to offer to those people so they have no chance at success
with them.
Some examples;
Personally I put myself somewhere around Reason, bordering on Love, much of the
time. Which isn't much above where I was in my teenage years, but I've been to
Shame and back since then, and now I feel like I'm on a path of
self-development that will take me higher.
All the girls I hooked up with in the US were generally happy, balanced people,
around the same level. One of them turned out to be a bit lower and I lost
attraction for her rather than let her drag me down.
In talking to some models last weekend I realised that they were very much
about Pride. I tried to intellectualise with one of them (Reason), but while
she was bright she didn't light up like more scholarly girls did. Cocky/Funny,
done right, I think is on the level of Acceptance - you must accept yourself to
laugh at yourself. The only material that really connected with her was
talking about high society (Pride) in NYC and LA. But she hadn't made the same
negative judgments about those things, so she turned me off, and I changed the
subject. (I'd also tried to qualify myself on the subject and failed, in this
instance, but the emotional level of the topic was correct)
Last night, I was kissing a girl who is very happy-go-lucky and bright, around
the Reason/Love/Joy mark, but I ditched her because I was meeting a girl who is
more around Courage and Neutrality. They were equally hot, but I just got
bored with girl #2. After this realisation I would not make the same decision.
I'm very careful about whacky spiritual ideas, but I'm pretty sure people have
a sixth sense about this sort of thing. The other day, sarging with Jet Tiger,
there was a girl standing with her back to us. Even though I couldn't see her
face, I found her attractive. I opened with our standard canned Vienna opener,
but there was a voice in the back of my head saying 'drop the canned shit,
change threads'. I pushed it anyway because my state was low, and she didn't
hate it. Then her friends arrived, JT made her take a photo of us, and she
left, mournfully looking at me, probably wondering why I wasn't trying to
continue the conversation.
On the bus on the way home from a club on Sunday night, I opened five girls,
and naturally my target was the hottest girl. Again, by the end of the bus
journey, I had a pretty good taste of each of their emotional levels, and the
one closest to mine had gravitated towards me. I #-closed her, and in seeing
her again last night, this choice was ratified.
Thoughts, opinions?
Magnus
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