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mASF post by "OceanEyes"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, March 3, 2005

On 3/9/05 4:18:00 PM, Riker_AUT wrote:
>On 3/9/05 3:09:41 PM, aidien flea wrote:

[]

>It probably doesn't help it that the
>most visible "commercial" guys like TD,
>Mystery etc. teach a level of game that
>75% of us perhabs are never going to
>need.
>I mean, I dont know any LA-Style VIP
>Clubs with Actresses and Models here in
>Vienna so why should I train for THAT
>fight if it's not my target audience?


Riker, I look at the principles behind
the methods and apply them to my own
situation of being old and busy. So,
no, I won't be painting my nails black,
but let me tell ya man, just having
chops (sideburns) and the latest prada shades
propped on my head constitutes MASSIVE peacocking
at this engineering convention I am attending
in San Diego all week. Since I am wearing
chinos and a tucked in polo shirt, I only
look vaguely edgy, not totally out of place.
Not that it is target-rich in any sense of
the word though.

Also, consider that in a chick's mind, she is
going to rate herself by the amount of male
attention she gets. So outdoor-type chicks
in, say, extreme sports get an automatic bonus
of 1-3 (or more) points. The B7 (club scale)
that rock climbs is going to have the bitch
shield of a HB10 within her peer group of rock
climbers where male/female ratios are
5/1 or worse. Go see the 3D IMAX caving
movie with those two chicks (Nancy, Hazel) in
it to see what I mean. Those are two of the
hottest women within that community(!?). Anyone
wanting to PU in such communities (and I have
though it's been awhile) needs to treat
these chicks pretty much like
9s-10s. You will find this same effect working
in college engineering programs with bad
male/female ratios (not the hottest women either),
and in any other male-dominated endeavor.
Interestingly, the relationship habits of some
of these chicks are just like movie stars:
they are notorious for dumping guys often!
So all those same tactics do work in these
communities. If you like interacting with
really fucking smart women (I do), like with PhDs
that do technical shit you never heard of,
it might be worth the trouble to learn the
LA-style game. Just because someone has
a PhD or whatever doesn't mean they don't
wanna fuck like a bunny ;)



>
>I also don't think most guys have a
>clear idea what they want from PU when
>they first come here. (Aside of the
>One-Itis Dudes, for them it's all about
>THAT special chick).
>I know I hadn't. Most guys will say they
>want to be able to pickup a different
>chick every week, but how many really
>want to handle that?
>How many guys really want to go without
>the emotional connection an LTR gives
>you and a FB gives you not?


PU skills have helped tremendously for me to
manage my current LTR. That's payoff enough
for me for now. BTW, good customer relationship
management (crm) software really helps keeping
everything on track, even when you are down
to a single LTR but generating and maintaining
"prospects." I would be dead without it.


>
>Suppose the first important step in PU
>is always to realize what YOU want, and
>then somehow sort trough the avalable
>info to find the material that helps you
>get there. I just don't know how a
>newbie is supposed to sort trough all
>the stuff without spending months (like
>I did before it finally, sorta,
>clicked).
>
>****************************************
>I'm back, and better than ever.


Riker,



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