mASF post by "Woodhaven" posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, October 10, 2004On 10/7/04 6:14:00 PM, Tommy W wrote: >OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP >OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP >OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP >OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP >just telling you OAP OAP OAP OAP. >OAP OAP OAP OAPOAP OAP OAP OAP but YOU >are accessible to a PICTURE of the OAP >Scale. OAP OAP OAP OAP see what it >looks like and should have a better >understanding of OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP >OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP OAP
Tommy. I know you're rigidly stuck on enforcing this concept. It's easy to
rationalize that you have been repeatedly blown out because you in fact were
"better / overqualified" with respect to the girl. It's a lot easier on your
ego. But as you evolve you will learn to let go of all rules and concepts, in
the favor of growth.
As you become more and more successful you will realize that you can drop all
rules and theories and things will still be cool. Guys that I know who are
very successful, they don't pay attention to things like this. Guys like
Dimitri, at the drop of a hat, can let go of all of their learnings, try
something new and still get laid. They can do things like just talk to the
girl and be their friend and still end up fucking them because they have the
basics down. In fact letting go of elaborate schemes will allow you to relax
and vibe a hell of a lot better.
>2 main topics that *I* use in my posts. >DHV and DLV. They contrast each other, >and if you do too much of one, you can >COUNTER it with the other. > >DHVs: (demonstrate that you are slightly >ABOVE the other person) polished >material, magic tricks, IVDs, >busts/negs, c&f/c&p, subcommunicating >dominance/authority, the potency of >peacocking gear you are wearing, alpha >subtleties in your Body Language, >rejecting her hoops, having her jump >through your hoops, etc. > >DLVs: (demonstrate that you are slightly >BELOW her) displaying vulnerabilities, >qualifying her, Beta Subtleties in your >Body Language, Beta Mannerisms, etc. > >Once again, notice that if you use too >much of one, you can counter with the >other. Some guys will walk up and >depending on them and depending on the >girl, you'll have to do one or the other >(DHV or DLV) to create more attraction. >Between the 2, there is a certain >balance that can be reached... the >balance is the most _ATTRACTION_ that >can be produced (i call this the OAP). >and blah blah blah (everything that i've >already covered that i don't want to >again)
But why bother? It seems like you're focusing on unnecessarily imagined
quantities and for what reason - to backwards rationalize why you got blown out
so much a few months ago?? No. Just accept that your skills sucked at the
time and you're improving. Just like the rest of us. Are these concepts
actually useful? Show us some LRs where you have used them to turn sets around
or come back from "overqualifying yourself". Seems to me you are blindly
throwing out material according to your imaginary scale.
BUT I'm not going to just criticize you without telling you something useful.
Now this can be seen in my LR's. If you want to see EXACTLY how it is applied,
just search my LR's.
Vibe with her. Demonstrate that you are cool and can chill out. Pay attention
to her as a person, not an inanimate OAP meter. Your value will be much higher
than her's most likely if you do this correctly. Now (and this requires some
skill) cold read what you think SHE CAN UNIQUELY OFFER YOU EMOTIONALLY. This
is a very precise thing - what we do is for real - it's not some haphazard
random shit like "I'm bad at math." We qualify and display REAL VULNERABILITY
so that she knows why we are interested in her in particular. We pay attention
to her real qualities. "I'm bad at math" would only be suitable in the case of sarging a math tutor!
We are forming real relationships with real women. We find out what she can
offer, and then display a need for it. NOW, despite our super high value, she
still feels like she has a chance. In fact, she feels like the knight in
shining armor has just arrived! It is her lucky day - Brad Pitt just so
happens to have an emotional need for that thing that ONLY SHE CAN PROVIDE.
What we do is precise man. We pay attention. We see her as a unique person,
not an OAP meter. This shit works, read the LRs. Drop your ego and improve
your game.
snip.
> >bottom line: use the terms you want to >use. If we are talking in >Woodhaven-language, you can throw the >term VLV into my DHV list. That is why >i put the ect. on there... > >*kisses* >-Tommy
Woodhaven-language, eh? Great now I have my own language, how sweet of you. I
am using the same convention on this board demonstrate high value (DHV), only
stating how the converse can be symbolized in a logically correct manner. If
you are going to use acronyms (which I try to minimize, it is not my intention
to make things more complex) might as well make them meaningful and logically
correct.
Woodhaven
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