The Top Pickup Artist Forum On The Internet: Fast Seduction 101

mASF post by "johnarx"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, December 12, 2004

That's a very good question. It is not only about seduction, but applies to
social interactions in general.

I do remember a very shy guy who wouldn't say anything for a very long time
and then break into a convo and ignore everybody else. It was rather
annoying, but sometimes it worked and he managed to redirect the convo.
Maybe it was because - as opposed to "although" - he was ignoring other
people and not apologizing for interrupting.

Today there was a punk with a (male) dog in the subway. The dog was
interested in a (supposedly female) dog a few yards away. However, the punk
shouted to his dog: "You don't get to fuck now! Sit down!" And the dog
obeyed immediately and sat down. It's hard to describe the reaction of the
people in the train after the guy told his dog he won't get a fuck now ;^)

The punk in the latter case displayed a very crisp alpha attitude and although
he went against all social conventions, he did not alienate the majority of
other people. In a way it was rather funny.

I could imagine that there are specific rules, but it may also depend on the
mindset of the other people. If the other people are happy in a convo or
doing something they enjoy, they might find an "intruder" with a different
frame rather annoying.

If, however, they are bored or in a bad mood, they might welcome anything
which makes a difference in the current situation. This could explain why the
punk in the subway had such a positive effect while in other situations,
reframing can have a very negative effect or not work at all.

Other thoughts?