mASF post by "victorj"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, August 8, 2005This isn't only for you. Its for all the guys out there looking for a quick fix
with techniques. There is no quick fix. You need to work on yourself first, on
the inside.
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Nah, life's ok. It's just the desperation and not getting laid that's getting
me down.
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Man, the day you can say your life is GREAT, then this will all come much more
easily. Don't depend on a woman to feel great. You should be able to feel good
even if you aren't getting laid right now.. Then it will come to you. What you
have now is called needyness. You need sex from the girls. And and this shit
pours trough your subcommunication like a flood trough a busted dam. Girls can
pick up on you bringing too much expectations into the interaction, and that
you're really care about the outcome. They'll run away because they don't want
to hurt your feelings in the end, and they dont want to spend time feeding
their energy to a needy guy.
If you don't have a fundament to fall back on, and she dumps you, you'll be
back to where you started again. Wouldn't it be GREAT to have a foundation to
fall back on, one that you're happy with.. So even when a GF dumped you, you
would feel sad but don't crumble.
And you would get on with your life knowing everything is really ok. If you
lost your job, the foundation is there.. If you get in an accident and end up
in a wheelchair, you'll still know that you have value inside. No outside
events can touch it. And you'll see life as positive, not focusing too much on
the negative.
Building INNER GAME is like building a fundament of "Iron and solid concrete"
for your life. (Most people have built their life on pillars of sand, and when
even a small wave comes they're washed away into the sea of desperation)
You have to get to the point when you understand yourself well enough to say to
yourself that you really love yourself. Like really honestly, and have NO DOUBT
in your mind.
And you have to honestly believe that you're of higher social status than the
girls you pick up, and that they're lucky to be with you.. NOT you're lucky to
be with them.
You may be happy with your life. I know that some people are happy sitting in
front of their computer at home all day long. (Not saying that you're doing
that, but a lot of people here are) But they are not really happy, they are
tricking themselves... Like saying they're happy to themselves in their head,
but they really know that its a lie deep down inside.
AND: That is NOT a lifestyle that will enable them too keep quality chicks in
the long run...
Imagine a guy going out with a model? What does he do besides dating her?
Sitting in his room, in his parents house all day, and reading on mASF.. Sorry
if I'm bursting a bubble here, but most people, even ugly and low self esteem
chicks are happier if you're doing at least something interesting on the side.
Get out of your comfort zone, and improve.. It is ALWAYS possible to improve
and learn new shit.
Being cool with yourself.. Like really liking yourself will change you
dramatically. This will majorly improve delivery, body language and
subcommunication.
For inner game:
Check out the archives of mASF. Telling you again, cause I know you havent read
them good enough to understand them =)
Anthony Robbins!! , he has some good shit on improving you life.
Even get into meditation and "woo woo" shit. Huna. Yoga.
Do interesting things in your life
Get great friends.
Know that you're worth a lot... know that you're different..
In10nse: Get game e-book. Some good points.
Some of the DeAngelo shit is great for changing some of your beliefs, but don’t
get too caught up in his techniques though. He's selling some out of context
technique theory that makes people buy more of his shit, because they are not
getting laid with the incomplete technique picture he presents.
Good body language:
Its really just being comfortable in your own skin.
Not leaning in when talking, leaning back.
Not facing the girl more than she faces you.
Not doing fidgety shit with your fork/ phone etc.
Don’t slouch, knit up tight etc.
But the funny thing is, these will all come naturally when you are really happy
with yourself. Man. Most ladies aren’t MAN haters or bitches. If they see a man
like all happy with himself, comfortable and relaxed, and non needy they wont
go out of their way to harass him, blow him out, say nasty shit etc. They'll
feed of his good and happy energy and become happy themselves. Your friends,
co-workers and family too. don’t go around all high energy and smiling all the
time and shit, but just be positive. It'll make a HUGE difference.
Frame control:
Controlling the interaction where you want it to go.
Swinggcat's real world seduction e-book, has some valid points.
There are basically two gameplans out there now:
Direct: Shark, Badboy, Dimitri, even Gunwitch and some of the juggler shit have
lots of direct.
These WILL get you laid.
Indirect: Real Social Dynamics (TylerDurden), Mystery, David Deangelo etc.
These WILL get you laid, if you don't fall into the trap of becoming a
routine-machine.
Both works. And both are complementary of each other. Anyone who says otherwise
are selling some shit, and don’t want you to buy the other range of products.
Mystery and Tylerdurden even says that direct is good, and that you should
check it out. Basic structure for both are:
Attraction -> Comfort -> Seduction.
With some different focus on what parts are most important. How much time to
spend in each etc. And how to make those 3 things happen in the best way.
Try them all and see what works best for you.
Check out Bristol lair for indirect gaming. And badboylifestyle forum for
direct. Do a Google.
I'm sure some of the older posters here can help you, and a few of the newer
ones.
DO NOT read this forum and take everything seriously, most of the posts these
days are like REALLY REALLY CRAP with no understanding of the social dynamics
behind, and this shit will only mess you up. Like people telling you that
you're doing great, when you're in need of good advice instead.
Theese people think that you're doing great because you went out and talked to
girls. They're just sitting here keyboard-jockeying with no experience and
don't know any better. They will fuck up your game, because you believe what
they say even though they have no clue what they are saying. Like what happened
at the start of this post.
Check the archives. http://www.fastseduction.com/archives/
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Yeah, I just do what feels natural. No mirroring as of yet.
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Forget that mirroring shit. Not very useful. Maybe useful to make your boss
like you at work.
Maybe it could help you some in comfort phase. But thats just going with the
flow.
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I would definetely agree that I don't have much of a plan when going into PUs.
Just fluff for awhile and try something new at some point is my goal. I saw the
maniac plan but it's too long for me to learn. It's tough to believe every PUA
has a plan like Maniac's in their head
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And for your gameplan: Don’t get into maniacplan if you don’t understand game.
That’s waste of time.
Your new plan should be something like:
Attract/Interest -> Comfort -> Seduce
Short breakdown.
1.Attract her with yor confidence, your mystery, teasing and flirting etc. Or
direct: "I think you are beautiful. I want to get to know you/......are you
friendly as well?" with confidence and alpha body language. With you turning
her physically (gently) to face you etc. Don't react emotionally to her.
Remember, she's lucky to be with you, not the other way around. No suckup. just
be an interesting and social person. Not an asshole.
2.With some practice you'll know when she is attracted. She'll be touching you,
giving you lots of attention, asking you questions etc. Now you can switch over
to comfort. Thats no big deal, you already know how to do that. Just start
answering her questions a bit. talk about normal shit. Spice it with some
attract material now and then if needed, or she seems bored. Get her phone#,
talk some more. kiss her, (you stop the kissing first!) then talk som more.
Kiss more. This is just normal stuff man. You get to know and trust eachother.
3.Seduce her. Get her home to you or her. First day, or later. Just chill.
Don't think about getting laid. Think about having fun. But dont come off as
non-sexual. Escalate when the time is right.
Work with this basic shit first, thats all you need at the beginning really,
then you can look into more advanceded techniques later on. There are a lot of
points to improve on in here. Mystery has broken down his gameplan to 9 parts.
(Each of the 3 above down to 3 smaller). Read his posts. This is basic, but
thats what you need to lay normal girls. Even fairly hot ones.
You need to tighten it up WAY more to get model/stripper type girls.
Good luck on your journey Nichols, have fun man. I believe it will be a
interesting learning experience that will help you in many areas of your life.
Not just getting laid. =)
Love from your friend,
Victor of Norway
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