mASF post by "the_jacas"
posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, August 8, 2005Here she is. The first edition of the infamous Jacas Dance Method (tm). Enjoy -
Jacas
The Jacas Dance Method
Disclaimer:
I am not a good dancer. I have not been using this much lately, but thought I
should post as some wings have been harrassing for me to write this up.
Background:
I used to think moving my limbs around to music was retarded. I could not
stand to enter a loud hip hop club and could only tolerate it if wasted.
Unfortunately the type of music I enjoy is not conducive to HBs. Eventually I
got to the point of tuning out the music I dont like in order to concentrate on
game. Loud music I dont like doesnt affect me negatively anymore (although
more power to you if you enjoy dance music). I tried dance type method without
much success for about 1 year when recovering from AFC. I then quit for about
1 year thinking dance game was bad game. I then met a natural dance game guy
(Will from the Vaclair) and became convinced there might be something to it if
done right.
Goal:
fun party girl types, one night stands (Ive also had some success with day2s
but callbacks can be tougher due to buyers remorse).
Field Tested Results:
For anyone that says dance game does not lead anywhere has limiting beliefs and
is missing a powerful piece of the game. Yes typical dance game can lead to
just being the makeout guy. But if you do it right then it can get results. I
am interested in what gets results, not what some guys say is 'solid game'. I
have had hand jobs on the dance floors, extracted to cars, one night stands,
short relationships, etc., from dance game. Yes many of these girls are party
girls. Personally that is what I prefer although Ive had some success with JDM
with normally non-party girl types who have alot going for themselves. If you
want all your women to be boring who prefer not to have a good time then there
are probably better methods for you.
Overview:
Dont be the typical dance guy (this is key). This method is not about being a
good dancer. Dancing is a great excuse to do ridicilous amounts of kino. It
can also be thought of as an audition for sex. It is a mix of dancing, having
fun, indirect words with direct body language, being in state, not giving a
shit, C&F, push/pull, gunwitch, massive kino, confidence, etc. You have to own
the frame - dont be her dancing monkey, be your own dancing monky that she cant
control. No hesitation. If she is a crazy dancer you have to be crazier.
Sometimes with the crazier girls it can become a sort of competition with
everyone thinking wtf. Sometimes it can be a more private affair depending on
the girl.
Open:
- Can open off of dance floor, on edge of dance floor, slowly walking through
dance floor, or when dancing. You can generally tell who might be open before
approaching. My approaches in these situations are generally short indirect
C&F with calibration. If I do not get a response then no loss, it was just a
quick witty comment being a social guy. If they are the fun open-minded type
the response will be obvious and the game is on.
- Any C&F openers work well here (it is loud so keep it short). Here are some
examples I can think of now:
-- 'Are you guys being good tonight?'
-- 'WTF did you just grab my ass?'
-- 'whats the password?' (kinda lame but can be good if followed up correctly,
e.g., make her say to me -- 'the password is get out of my way bitch!').
-- 'your bad, stay away'
-- move your lips as if you are saying something but no sound is coming out.
This will get them curious as they will think they cant hear you due to the
music and will move closer.
-- Sometimes you will get hardcore gunwitch and words are not necessary for
opening. Dont depend on this (dont be the creepy guy looking around the bar
for targets), I only do it if it happens accidentally. once you make solid EC
walk towards her while holding EC and start the game.
Follow up:
- Assuming a good response then tease them more while kinoing (contrasting
signals). sometimes she will give a shit test like 'You couldnt handle me'
which I take as an IOI and an excellent challenge.
- examples:
-- 'oh you must be one of those bad (or good) girls, stay away from me' with
playful push away or contrasting pull in.
-- 'so are you the good girl or bad girl?' bust with opposite of what they
claim. often the response will be some type of both which is a blatant IOI.
in this case bust them as you kino her (indirect words with direct body
language can be great conflicting signals confusing her into attraction).
-- 'you guys are trouble, stay away from me' with kino and/or gunwitch.
Comfort Building (not in any particular order):
- put arm around them like you are good friends.
- grab hand, what situation could possibly be easier to hold hands?
- assuming kino... spins or two. Women LOVE being spinned.
- Stir-the-pot (hands held together in front like you are stirring the pot).
make them stir-the-pot. convince them its ok to make fools of themselves on
the dance floor.
- any other stupid dance moves like disco moves, mowing the lawn, the shopping
cart, etc.
- put one arm on her shoulder and do an irish jig.
- my favorite is to lean all the way back with my back about 2 inches off the
floor with one hand supporting myself and thrusting the hips. The idea is to
convince them I am a crazy attention whore yet at the same time dont give a
shit everyone is looking at me thinking wtf.
- real close and/or grinding.
- go briefly down on her, tease her.
- witty comments in ear. e.g., 'maybe your not so bad after all', 'I thought
you were a good girl', etc.
- you are not "next" dance guy. be different.
- all assumes solid EC.
- leaning WAY back, leading/kinoing with cock when dancing and having wide
stance.
- anything crazy/fun you can think of.
Progressive Physical Escalation (order can vary somewhat):
- when spinning, do half spin to grind their ass. Often they will assume the
position. If they bend over play fuck them with one hand in the air while
spanking with the other.
- push/pull by short back turns, dancing at distance (holding hands or not
holding hands). dance close then step back keeping distance.
- hold them from behind.
- have her ride your leg. This is done by having one leg further out in front
then the other. She will naturally grind on it more and more until it is
getting ridiciously obvious what she is enjoying.
- no touching erogenous zones with hands (ass is ok).
- kino with cock on ass and pussy (leaning back so the center of kino is
crotch).
- have her hold you from behind. Often she will massage the front of my body.
sometimes she will rub the cock.
- saying things to them, make sure breath is going in ears.
- breath on her neck and in ear.
- nibble on neck and/or ears.
- leaning back, hold long periods of gunwitch/EC.
- get close to their face 2 inches away without leaning in (she is leaning in
to you). hold gunwitch/solid EC. Dont kiss her, make her kiss you. If she is
ready for kiss she will initiate the kiss. If she does not initiate within
kiss ~10 seconds then wash/rinse/repeat other steps.
- behind them: kissing their neck, they will turn their head to makeout.
- constant grindage.
- be first to pull back. not the guy slobbering all over her.
- after kiss, grab their hair, squeeze, pull head back.
- slow screw up against the wall.
Logistics:
- mini venue change to different areas of the dance floor.
- venue change to more private area (couches if available). lean back, make
her give you a massage, have her dance around you, lay on her lap, etc.
- After pulling off dance floor, The purpose is not to slobber all over her,
remain unneedy. She should be wanting you more than you want her at this
point.
- get non-dancegame rapport before extracting out of club.
- include female friends in the fun. sometimes they will jump in to sandwich.
In that case give them both equal attention. Then isolate target from friends
after being friendly, otherwise it doesnt last long (although I am very
interested in improving JDM to include 3somes).
- The worst threat to your pull are her friends cockblocking. Once this
happens it is very hard to fix so try to befriend her friends before they can
cockblock. This is what fucks me up the most as often I dont even know who her
friends are until its too late. Make it a point for her to introduce you to
her friends before the friends intrude themselves. When befriending them just
be a normal cool guy without being all over the target. In general dont be
touching her as you are vibing with her friends.
- Another threat is her going logical and getting ASD or buyers remorse. Be
chill and have her want you more than you want her. Dont be obviously trying
to pull her. She will give you signs when she is ready.
- When you do extract from the club, tell her, dont ask her. say something
like 'lets get out of here' or oversell your private club or another location.
Or you can slowly lead the discussion up to it. Grab her hand and start
leading before she responds.
- If things arent looking good dont be afraid to walk away, if you keep chasing
then the odds only get worse. I can think of atleast one situation where I
said 'fuck this Im leaving' followed by a backturn and walkoff only to have her
beg me to wait up to go to the car (this wont happen often but its better odds
then waiting around turning into another one of her orbiters).
Any comments/suggestions on how the JDM might be improved are greatly
appreciated.
Jacas
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