mASF post by "Wesmantooth"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, January 1, 2005Hey guys,
I need some knowledge from the more experienced guys.
Everything I've read so far advises waiting until the chick seeks Rapport
before you do. I've written out a fairly basic structure which I try and use
most nights I go out. I'll have an opener and a bunch of routines I'll want to
use for the night and maybe one extra thing that I will try out to push my
comfort zone and see what will happen.
When I wrote my structure I was reading a post call Hook Points by IN10SE
with a reply by Loverboy, and based the whole thing around the three Hook
Points they spoke about and what the chick would do once you passed them;
1) The attraction hook point - basic IOIs, light kino, comes near you when you
move away, qualifies to you
2) The comfort hook point - reduce personal space, verbal connection, helps YOU
anti-CB her friends, puppy dogs around you, accepts your isolation or OFFERS to
isolate you / extraction, etc. # closed?
3) The seduction hook point - really starts to kino you, verbal SOIs, sexual
state...can be pre/post make out.
I did this so that when I noticed these IOIs in my sarges I could just drop
whatever other material I was planning to go into and adjust accordingly to the
chick's raising Buying Temperature.
Now the thing is when sarging I'm completely relaxed and always have the
'wait for rapport, wait for rapport before adjusting' in the back of my mind.
It's not like my inner dialogue is saying this in my mind but after everything
I've read it's like an automatic thing where I won't use a certain amount of
material UNTIL I see these IOIs mentioned above.
Most of my sets run for about five to ten minutes. I'm having fun and the
majority of the time, so are the girls. I can see their Buying Temperature
rising but they NEVER seek Rapport with me. I think I can read bodylanguage
pretty well, working in a picture theatre for six years constantly serving
customers did this for me I suppose. The girls always seem to be enjoying
themselves, and it's like I made their night by coming and speaking to them.
But they don't seek Rapport.
So this got me to thinking that maybe instead of waiting for them to seek
Rapport just keep an eye on Buying Temperature and Venue Change or Isolate
accordingly.
But I see another couple of possibilities also which I have just thought of;
1) I am not displaying enough Value. I use the Best Friends IVD during set and
am c&f in a good way.
2) I face initially when opening. Arrgh! I just realised this. Maybe this is
more of a problem then I first thought but the girls always seem cool and chill
after a minute or so of me being there.
When in set my bodylanguage is chilled out and relaxed, most of the time
hands at my sides or one in my back pocket. I speak slowly and clearly, though
I do need to work on my projection.
Fuck me, apologies for the long post but I guess the more information I give
the easier and more accurately my sticking point can be assessed.
Thanks in advance,
Wesmantooth
"There is no spoon"
- Neo
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