mASF post by "Metro"
posted on: mASF forum: Reviews Discussion, August 8, 2004[Edit from Formhandle: The workshop being reviewed below was hosted August
19-22, 2004]
About Me:
Most guys in community know me at least from my internet presence and the fact
that I’ve gone and seen every PU instructor to lead the Hugh Hefner lifestyle I
thought it would take years to get to. I attended my first SS seminar in Jan
2003, and didn’t get any results until Sept 2003, when I started coaching work
with Riker. I was doing well with his stuff, and stuck with one girl. I was 25,
and this was the first girl ever for me. Then I met guys from lair, who gave
models like MM, RSD, etc, and I attended an RSD workshop, and started reading
ASF. I could open sets easily, and I would get #’s from tons of girls, all
flakes. And all I’d hear is practice phone game, go out seven nights a week.
How the hell can I practice phone game when I can’t get the girls on the phone?
So, then I went to RSD bootcamp, thinking, this will fix the problem because I
must be missing something and I want results, and I think this will take 2
years off thPre learning curve. I had some minor success in bootcamp, got some
# closes, etc, etc. I came back, and still having flakes, like not much has
changed. I’m not bashing RSD in any way. TD is a cool guy, and it’s clear he’s
excellent at what he does. What they do works for them, but I didn’t get any
results using this stuff, and I lost all sense of balance in my life. I
couldn’t do anything but think about PU, talk about PU, live and breathe PU. I
couldn’t even be around my friends and turned down invitations to hang with my
closest friend so I can go and PU. So, finally I decided, let’s go see BB. I
read Magnum’s and Grasshoppers’s review and I decided these guys are getting
results, so I’m determined to go see BB. As for the change that occurs over
four days, read on.
Pre-workshop
I go to meet BB and Nightlife at their apartment in Rio in this penthouse which
has amazing setup. The minute we get there BB makes us feel like a friend, and
not a workshop student. I introduce myself, and he asks me why I came, and what
my sticking points are. He says “All of this will be taken care, I promise” and
shakes my hand. He says “Your game is my problem, not your problem.” Very
different than other instructors. Then, he has us do a video interview so we
can see ourselves before and after. Read on, and you’ll see the difference.
Day 1: The Matrix, Alpha BL, and attraction
I’ve been wondering all this time why the hell when somebody writes a review on
the workshjop, they say nothing about material. I finally realized, there’s
very little material and I have zero notes from the whole workshop, because his
method is so simple and effective you need zero notes. I tried to take notes,
and just put my notepad aside and listened. Badboy starts out by telling us we
can take the red or blue pill, and we’ve already taken the red, and what he’s
gonna show is gonna hurt, but we’ll see the world differently after that. He
explains how society would experience complete breakdown if it weren’t for the
matrix, and all the things that we’ve been taught are what help us and allow us
to succeed are just programs in the matrix. As I got home, and thumbed through
magazines, watched TV, I saw it, I realized the Matrix is all around us, and
you can control it once you recognize it.
Then he goes into Alpha BL, so fucking simple. He explains how to flip switches
that get attraction in matter of minutes. So much simpler than using 50 million
attraction routines. The other thing that he does really well, is he does
exercises to integrate everything he teaches you on subconscious level. So, by
the end of three days Alpha Body language is hardwired into you. And then I aks
him about approach anxiety, and he says, use the body language I taught you,
it’ll go away. So simple, but works, instantly. I think people misunderstand
the direct game because with BB method you can use anything as an
opener(situational, throw ice, whatever the hell you want).
Then BB takes me and one other student to an irish bar in Rio(fucking irony).
Haha. Openers-what openers. You can throw fucking ice at somebody as an
opener. You can do anything as an opener, with BB body language. There’s not a
ton of sets in the bar. But, I go into a 3 set with a guy, and two girls. BB
says open guy, and then talk to his girls. I do exactly this, using the BL he
teaches us, and I get instant IOI’s(playing with hair, laughing, smiling), and
I just bullshit with the girl, and I # closed her. First set I open I # close,
but I don’t know enough about rapport.
BB has me do a few more sets, because it’s thurs not as many sets in bar, but
we go and open. I’m still getting IOI
Then, I go to pay my bill for my drinks. Yes, you can drink and PU. Really
there are no rules other than having the strongest frame. Then we leave and
have a few drinks at next place, and have fun hanging with BB and Cortez.
BB and I sit and watch the other workshop student in set. And hes’ talking to
super hot girl, and
At end of first day I’m a little concerned because of the simplicity, and think
“that’s it, maybe BB workshop is not as good as people say it is.” Read on to
what happens next.
Day 2: Rapport
BB explains as Magnum ST said in 5 minutes Wide and deep rapport. I’m thinking,
are you kidding, this is the way people naturally communicate, I’ve been doing
this all my life. I can just be me, and do this really well. Then BB goes into
a # of exercises, which make no sense at all, until you get to the field, and
you see the purposed behind them. The exercises are a blast, and BB sucks up
negative energy. It’s impossible to be tired or negative around BB. Not only
does BB teach rapport very effectively, he gets amazing rapport with his
students. When you finish working with BB crew you’ve got friends for life, I
mean good friends. Cortez and I joked that will be at each other’s wedding if
we ever get married , lol. Like you bond with them on every level and you make
friendships that exist outside of PU.
While we’re waiting in line some workshop students open a set, and then eject
after a bit, and I go in and just start chatting with them. We’re almost about
to not get into the club, but I’ve gotten in with the set, and they want us to
come with them to where they’re going. I could have isolated my target at this
point. One of the other workshop students actually ended up on day 2 with her
because I ditched her when I got in the club, and Nightlife said I lost all the
attraction I’d built. Oh, well, next set.
Anybody who says “girls won’t approach you” go use the alpha BL and see what
happens. I’ll post pics in the forum of the girl that gave me and Cortez an AI,
and I # closed in a matter of 20 minutes, and who wanted to show me RIO through
the eyes of a local. Too bad I was leaving. Cortez and I were standing against
the stairs like we owned the club, and this girl tips her beer bottle at us,
and I pulled her over, and her friend doesn’t CB. Because with BB body language
the friend can see that she’s into you, and won’t drag her to the bathroom and
all this nonsense. Even the bouncer comes up to us and is like giving us high
fives.
I know a lot of people will say Brazi is easy. But add a language barrier, and
the highest bitch shield club in Rio, and it’s not as easy as you think. But,
we’re still getting into sets and getting # closes. Not every set is perfect,
then I just go and grab a drink with Cortez and hang out, and we approach the
next set, and we’re in. Next think I know I’m in set with Brazillian guy from
our workshop talking in portugeues, and us taking pics, and girls are all over
us. I have no idea what the the hell they’re saying, but I’m having fun.
With BB method you don’t have to approach every set in the club because you’re
strike rate is really high. You’ll get into 95% of sets. And the blow outs, are
only existent if you let yourself get blown out. BB teaches you how to have an
insanely strong frame. He teaches you how do whatever makes you happy, and make
the world center around you. Funny thing is with this attitude, nobody fucks
with you. Some girl I tried to sarge 6 mos ago IM’s, and starts talking to me,
and I tell her if you want be in my life, it’s on my terms, and I have to be
happy, nothing that effects my happiness in a bad way is worth having in my
life. She’s trying to invite me places and stuff. Once she sees the body
language, game over, and personally I don’t even care about hooking up with
her.
Day 3: Lifestlye/Kiss Close etc
Day 3 BB talks more about some of the stuff in the last paragraph above. And
then he carries through more of these exercise. By day 3 the change has become
apparent. The AFC’s in all of us are dead. BB give us a perspective on zero
expense dates and what makes for interesting dates and what keeps his girls
around. By day 3 any sort of sticking point or anything else doesn’t seem to
exist. For some reason, I can’t even explain I feel ultra confident, and
there’s no way I can go back. I feel like he killed the AFC in us, and I can go
back to having a life outside of game, and stop spending my whole life thinking
about nothing but PU. He teaches us how to kiss close effectively, and it’s so
easy. WE all go out back to this club on Night 3.
He also gave us some very simple AMOG tactics. Granted with this body language
you don’t get AMOG’d very often.
I had a tough time this night, and got a little bit frustrated. Some girl’s
sitting on a couch so I go and open, and I just use my alpha BL. She’s sitting
with her friends and instead of CB her friend is trying to sell my target to me
“she’s nice, she’s good girl, blah, blah.” The girl says she doesn’t speak so
good English So, I tell her “then don’t talk, just listen.” I have no idea what
the hell I talked to her about, just used my voice, and body language, and
she’s gone. I took too long to kiss closed, and Cortez is like kiss close her.
Unfortunately I threw her out of state with that, and tried to kiss closed to
no avail. Whatever, move on. We go upstairs, open more sets. Then, we sit down
and wing a set for another workshop students, and one girl is all pissed off,
none of us can break her. Whatever let her cry and be depressed? I’m a bit
frustrated, so we say screw it, and just drink, and have fun. And just through
the body language we’re getting crazy IOI’s.
Day 4: MLTR’s and stuff
Badboy talks to us about how to manage all this stuff, as these are going to be
problems we’re soon going to have. AT this point I have no doubt. The change
that you go through with BB is permanent. He spends time talking about game for
each of us individual because game is different for everybody.
He tells us don’t even worry about game “You’re going to reflect everything
I’ve taught you because it’s subconscious. You’ll see.” I see the matrix in
existence all around me, and I realize this is going to a piece of cake. You
talk to other workshop students, and they are the same way.
We all go out this night, and have drinks smoke hukkahs, and hang out. We’ve
become like the best of friends.
Let’s see the best way to put it. By the time I went to see BB I was sick of
the game, because I felt lke I couldn’t have a life outside of this, I had to
go out 4 nights a week, and I was turning down initiations to hang with my
closest friends so I could go and do PU. And I thought this is going to be
endless pursuit like a pipe dream. Not only that, it stopped being fun,
because I was getting a lot of flakes and it all seemed like a lot of work that
was not leading anywhere. What BB does is change your reality. He takes all the
garbage that’s been put in your head and takes it out (from parents, society,
whatever). Then he turns you back into you, but in a way that kills the AFC in
you. He goes to work on your inner game», and you don’t even realize how he
does it. After workshop it’s like there’s a certain sense of calm that’s come
over me and I can stop worrying about learning PU. The model BB gives you is
so simple that you don’t have to practice 7 nights a week for 4 hours. The
thing that really sets BB aside is the fact that he doesn’t need to be seen as
an authority figure as you’ll see in other review. I # closed some chic the
night before I left for workshop, I called her up and we’re going to meet up,
no fucking phone game routines, or any shit. “I want to see, you , you pick the
time, I’ll pick the place.” Also I have no doubts that I won’t need another
workshop after this. It may take a few weeks but I can confidently say that
the work BB does on you is deceptively simple. It’s simple from the perspective
of learning it, but it’s obvious he works hard at what he does, and loves to
help people. And I’ll be posting my post workshop results here on this I could
go on with this review for days because even though the workshop is simple you
start to think about the world in different ways. BB teaches you how to fill
your life only with things that make you happy, and make the world the way you
want it, not let the world make the way it wants you to be. I can’t wait to see
you guys again and NO, this is not to take another workshop as some of you may
think. It’s because we’re friends for life. One last thing is that BB provides
lifetime support to all his students. Think about that, nobody else in the
community I’ve met has that kind of commitment to his students.
Let me give one example of how strong frame effects you. When I was 13, I was
in band in junior high. One day after school I went to see the teacher to
switch instruments. I picked up the new instrument, and teacher says to me
“you’re going to be amazing, you’ll be one of the best in the state.” 2 years
later I was ranked # 1 in state at my instrument. When somebody has this
powerful of belief in you, it becomes self-fulfilling prophecy, because you do
everything from that frame of mind.
I will actually write a review that compares both BB and RSD workshop, which
goes into more details of the differences. Having worked with both crews I
think I have a pretty objective assessment of the two of them.
Day 5: My adventure with Cortez
You had to be there is all I can say….
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