mASF post by "Golgo"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, April 4, 2005Great title, huh?
Hope TD doesn't mind me reposting this.
I was trying to make sense of all the material on this site, and I just found
myself more and more adrift.
Came across this post, and it clarified a lot for me.
I hope its of some benefit to others, as well.
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Hey man,
I think its great idea to look for assistance where you can and to be open to
taking an honest look at yourself and figuring out where you're falling short.
The chatboard is a really great place for that, and I've met many of the people
on this board and can really attest that there are some very experienced and
skilled guys on the board. So asking for help from specific guys may limit
what feedback you get.
Anyway man, I think the fastest way to get your skillset up is to meet the best
guys through Lairs that you can find via Cliff's List, PAIR or email, or to
take in field workshops. I'm very serious on this as I spent around 20gs last
year travelling and meeting the best guys in the community and taking
workshops. The benefit that I got was that so many guys got to see what a loser
I was, and I got a lot of very harsh and hard to hear feedback. This was
difficult and depressing, but forced me to look at myself and to make changes.
Also, by hanging with people with stronger frames, sharper intellects, better
senses of humour, more alpha personalities, better approach skills, better
clothes, etc, I was forced to increase my level to match theirs. It was one of
the hardest years of my life, and I dealt with many negative emotions and
depression and anxiety as I came to conscious awareness of just how poorly
socially calibrated I really was. At any point I could relapse into this
state. It would only take one small thing to throw me off my game, and I would
lose all my progress, because my habits were engrained over many years of
AFCness.
Other than that, the solution is as always to create out a set with opener,
C&F/negs, stories, DHVs, emotional connection, physical connection,
extraction/#close that lasts 20-60 minutes and then to go out 4 nights a week
to practice for six months until you have the amount of social interaction
under your belt that you can even understand what pickup is.
Make no mistake - you probably have no idea what game even IS, unless you have
done this or seen it done. 3/4s of guys reading this chatboard don't even
understand what game
actually is. I mean that very seriously. If you understand what game is, you
should be able to have 90% of girls that you talk to extremely attracted to you
within seconds. No exaggeration. It isn't any more complicated than riding a
bike, but you have to know what it looks like and what it is. There is so much
conflicting information out there that only massive field experience or seeing
it live will make this make sense to you, because there are so few naturals in
north america that you won't know what to look for.
Good luck man.
-TD
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Best,
G13
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The occasion to think a little more and try to understand why Mystery and other
people act in a way you don't undertand or to give up jerk-approach as if you
were no more 11yo and ask them in a straight and positive way ?
-Phenix
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