mASF post by "Invalid User"
posted on: USENet: alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, November 11, 2002Tom,
Before I start my rant, just want you to know that you and I have met - I have
GREAT respect for both you and Kim. But this response of yours is WAY beneath
you.
Tom Vizzini wrote:
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> > ><New***k@cj***.net[ ? ]> wrote in message
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> > Calm down Tom it was just a question. Noo need to get all defensive
> > and huffy about it That is the rumor...... that you had stolen Kim
> > Mcfarland from the Ross Jeffries, "The Master of Seduction"
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> Sorry but it is a lie told by those who don't like Ross. If all you have is
> rumor then I suggest you get a fact.
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> > As for your question ......... I'm not ducking anything, I said in a
> > post yesterday that I have no idea where David D'Angelo was. I don't
> > know the guy, I'm just someone who has his e-book and know it is
> > superior to SS.
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> Sorry not good enough. You know exactly where he is. He is hiding in his
> private group. I actually suspect that you ARE him and just trolling the
> group.
Are you SURE that NewbaumTurk (a name from one of my favorite movies) knows
"exactly where he is?" Kinda rude to accuse him of lying to serve your
purpose. This is ASF, not ADYD (alt.doubleyourdating). Why should D. D'A be
here? Ross has his private group, what's wrong with D. D'A having his? Ross
shares info via his private list, David does the same via his : I see no
difference.
> So why don't you write David and get him in here? Why do you suspect he is
> hiding?
Get him HERE? ASF? Look at 90% of the posts - they deal with whether or not
Ray is an as*hole or not, Ray's lawsuits and other noise. (No attack here) How
much time does Ross spend here? Not as much as he used to. ASF, for the most
part has become a joke. Why would he subject himself to a NG that is 90%
garbage and the other 10% believes in other systems? How about Ross letting D.
D'A discuss his stuff on Ross's private list and let everyone there try some of
his techniques/philosophy and report back to both the "private list" as well as
ASF.
> Are you his bitch?
Name calling, Tom?
> I notice you are STILL ignoring my answer to you about why David and Ross
> are no longer friends. Why are you running away from the FACTS. Here they
> are again
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> Here is the unknown facts. Eben, er I mean David get pissed because Ross
I find this last comment very surprising. I thought you would have respected
Eben's desire to keep his name private and to refer to him by his "Nom 'de
plume."
> seduced someone that David was interested in. I am not kidding. David gave
> Ross permission to attempt to play around with some girl. David thought that
> there was no way that any woman who would have a choice between him and Ross
> would ever do anything with Ross. OOPS.....He miscalculated!!!! David was
> very pissed. He could not believe that Ross could succeed. That is the true
> untold story.
What has that got to do with the effacy of his system? He made a bet and lost -
who knows "where" the woman was that night. Doesn't mean that DYD doesn't
work. There's a part of the story that is missing. What does "interested in"
mean? (I've met lots of women who I am "interested in," but for one reason or
another, didn't attempt anything - could have been married, a friend of the
family, etc.) Did David try his system first and fail? Did he try it afterwards
and fail? Did he try it afterwards and succeed? Did anyone interview the girl
after? Why did Ross succeed? (No insult to Ross) Maybe she was just horny that
night and wanted to get laid. Maybe it was a mercy fu*k. I've seen it happen.
> I am STILL awaiting your response. Here is SOLID proof that Ross outshined
> David in head to head competition. Any comment???? Ross BEAT the 'Master of
> Cocklessness" :)
From the example above, I would say that one sampling hardly constitutes
definitive proof. And, since we don't know if David tried first and failed, how
can you call it a "head to head" competition? To me, a SINGULAR head to head
would be if Ross and David approached her at the same time and we could then see
who she went home with. It would require MANY examples, in many
settings/situations to statistically show which system/practicioner is superior.
(One more point - which system is easiest for most men to master? I have a
friend who has studdied but rejects the SS techniques, yet is quite effective
using the DYD stuff)
Who cares whether David or Ross gets laid more or by better looking women!?!
The only thing that I care about is which of the two systems, or perhaps a blend
of them, gets ME laid more. To me, this is not a competition between David and
Ross - it is a competition between me and every other man out there.
Thanks for your time.
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