mASF post by "setarcos"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, May 5, 2005PlayerSupreme wrote:
>On 5/18/05 4:52:14 PM, setarcos wrote:
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>>PlayerSupreme wrote:
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>>>We are what we think. All
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>>that we are arises with our
>>thoughts. With our
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>>>thoughts, we make the
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>>world--Buddha
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>>>How does this apply to
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>>PUA? Now that is the
>>question. And how can we
>>benefit
>>>from this thought?
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>>I think this is some keyboard
>>jockey sosuave "think and you
>>will become"
>>crap.
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>LOL! If that is your belief then who am I to even try to change it.
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>>This shit never got me
>>anywhere.
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>I'm sorry to hear that. Do you know my life story? If you did then you would
>see how very valuable words like this truly are in the hands of the right
>person.
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>I think I posted how my first girlfriend quit taking the pill so she could get
>pregnant...how I dropped out of school to support a new family...got
>married...got cheated on...worked at a job that I hated every second of
>everyday I was alive...hated people...total antisocial...no self confidence or
>self esteem...was fat and 60lbs overweight with no muscle tissue...broken back
>from a car accident...at 23 had the blood pressure "of a 80 year old
man"-nurse
>who took it....and on and on and on. I hated being black...I hated whites...I
>hated everyone!!!!
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>Step into my shoes, I'd bet you woulda killed yourself after the first year of
>that hell. I used to cry myself to sleep like a babyboy over my misfortunes.
>And to top it off my wife was frigid!!!! I had to take the pussy or pay for
>it...yeah I would bribe her just to get laid...then for her to sleep with my
>older sons ( oh yeah she already had 2 kids by 2 different men) father...
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>OK!!! Do you get just a inkling of how my life used to be. I thought I was
>the anti christ since my mom told me I was evil since I was a kid. I got beat
>almost everday with an electrical extension chord...pops wasn't around he was
a
>player out playing...and I was the child who looked like him...
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>are you getting a small look at my picture...????
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>can you imagine the whelps that bled on my arms and back and legs from a
>electrical extension chord? My oldest memory is of being 3 years old and
>cowering behind a toilet with wet skin getting it flayed off my black ass
cause
>I used the bathroom in the bathtub...
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>growing up starving cause pops wouldn't bring home food money while he was out
>riding around on his motorcycle...until mom's told the base commmander and
pops
>lost a stripe...then we had food...
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>are you following me setarcos..while you slept in a nice bed in a nice home I
>slept on a cot..army cot until mom's could save enough for bunkbeds.
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>Ok enough of that sad assed tale: I come from that and look at me now!!!!
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>Look at my attitude!!!!
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>You come from? upper middle class family. You had vacations (what is that
>anyways??)
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>I was able to change my life through changing what was inside of me.
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>It's ok if you sit here and philosophize that this is nuthin but crap...but
I'm
>living proof of just how crappy it is.
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>And you think I was good looking??? Sorry kid. I created the body that I'm
>in. I used to weigh 190 lbs and I had 13 inch arms at the time ok. I was all
>fat.
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>I started losing my hair at the age of 22. Do you know how tramatic this is
>for a young man????
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>Then in my 30's all the guys had flat tops that I would never be able to
>have...
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>Look at me now!!!!
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>I had to change how I viewed myself. I had to self talk myself into feeling
>attractive...I had to stop hating myself first.
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>You guys think I was born a natural. Natural my ass!!! I read books. In high
>school I read Eric Webbers How to pick up girls and listened to his
>phonograph..that is a record..this black huge disk thing that plays recorded
>sound.
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>I was practising in my first year of junior college when I met my ex wife and
>actually got up the nerve to say hello and look at the hell my life had become
>since until I changed.
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>In my 30's if I wasn't a good dancer I never woulda gotten laid. If I wasn't
>teaching aerobics and fitness I never woulda gotten laid.
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>In my 40's I set out to learn real game since my knees were about shot. I
>figured I'd better learn how to actually meet women. I learned from pimping
>and started at the top.
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>But I changed myself inside and from there the outside changed.
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>I was no natural. I learned to develop the natural inside of me. I'm lucky
to
>have the mind of the hunter type vs the farmer type.
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>But I tried the lines and the scripts. I tried and read everything that I
>could get my hands on. And I still seek more knowledge.
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>This week I just got in the mail:
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>The Complete Assholes guide to Handling Chicks.
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>The Guide to Picking up girls
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>How to be wildly wealthy fast
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>and a book on how to have the body language that turns women on , can't recall
>the title since it's in my car.
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>I am constantly evolving and learning instead of static and locked into one
>plane.
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>Don't discount something just cause you didn't have what it took to stick with
>it until it became your reality!!!!\>
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>>HOWEVER, this mindset works
>>great when... you are a hot
>>male and the
>>girls already *choose you* and
>>you just ride the vibe to the
>>fuck.
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>You have no idea how far off you are. Women don't fuck you because you look
>hot. It's not about looks for them. I have no idea how many experts have said
>this. I have asked a gang of women about this. They all have said it's true.
>Infact many don't want a hot looking guy. So it's not a boon if your super
>good looking. Or have a super big dick for that matter.
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>"Its really a small percentage of women that do care about looks, most women
on
>some level would like a good looking guy but the reality is that many of these
>types are superficial and have nothing going on upstairs."
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>"Looks jack it up sometimes, like certain people Iknow (me),it's about the
>confidence that the person shows"
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>-tanya
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>>Till then, every single time
>>(probably 50-100 times if
>>thats good
>>enough) this results in
>>nothing.
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>Have you thought that maybe you sabatogue yourself? With the attitude that
>you've shown here and in the chat room I can believe this to be very true!!!
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>>So, this doesn't apply to real
>>PU except when girls already
>>chase me.
>>Once the girls do start
>>chasing me on their own, I can
>>just think to
>>myself "I am awesome! I am a
>>cool guy! I am the great
>>catch!".... till
>>then, this is nothing.
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>Well I guess your one of the lucky ones. You have women chasing you.
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>>I only speak from experience.
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>>PlayerSupreme I know you get
>>with 1000000000s of chicks,
>>but then again
>>I think you are a natural and
>>have some crazy vibe about
>>you.
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>I answered this above. I am a self made natural.
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>Its easy
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>>to just say "oh yeahhh I just
>>think I'm a huge player,
>>therefore I am"
>>but for everyone else who is
>>struggling out there on the
>>field and not a
>>natural, trying to learn how
>>to actually fuck beautiful
>>women, it is
>>different.
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>LOL, yeah boi...it is different to actually be on the field.
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>>My message is that you can change yourself by working on your innergame. YOu
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>can't grow in height, but you can walk like a giant.
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>If your fat by changing the inside you will start to naturally lose weight.
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>If your ugly you will start dressing better or want to and change your
>appearance.
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>If I can change then anyone can.
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>I come from a time when it wasn't fashionable to be black.
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>You guys think all white chicks want is a black man these days and I laugh at
>that shit. Less than 10% of the fine ones out there. I'm not counting fat and
>nasty who will fuck anything.
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>Let's get real up on this forum. And it starts within each and everyone of
>you.
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>Change your inner's and you will change your outter experiences.
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>If your not getting enough dates it's because of shit going on inside of you.
>If you don't think your good enough for that hot babe over there, then you
will
>subsconsciously blow it when you step up to her.
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>You will mumble your lines or scripts, you will stumble over a part and forget
>something, you will do something that makes her feel uneasy....then you will
>post on here that you were only practicing to begin with.
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>But by changing your inner beliefs and developing your inner game» your outter
>game will change. You will then have the confidence and belief that YES you
do
>deserve to be with hot babes as a natural right of just being a man.
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>Your self cockblocking methods will be a think of the past.
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>So in closing you've seen where I have come from. I've shown you the pathetic
>background of my AFC existance as a bug in life.
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>I've shown you parts of my childhood that I rarely tell anyone about. I'm glad
>I only showed you guys the good shit and not the real evil shit...lol.
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>So if by changing my insides and getting a better outter life works then I
>would say that I am living proof of this.
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>I came from having NO game! In high school I couldn't even talk to women to
>getting women to sell their pussy for me, just by working on my inner game» and
>changing my own destructive self beliefs, then you better believe that
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>>>We are what we think. All
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>>that we are arises with our
>>thoughts. With our
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>>>thoughts, we make the
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>>world--Buddha
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>If you can follow the universal law here you can see how my childhood created
>my adult existance. I went from one hell to another, until I got tired of it!
>I started working on myself way back in my late 20's and I'm still changing.
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Listen man, I understand you came from a very hard upbringing. I can't
sit here and KJ my way through explaining why you are a good PUA through
that.
All I am saying is if all that goes through my head while sarging is "I
am the great catch" I get no where. I don't know how else to put it
except you aren't the "great catch" till you ARE the "great catch"
When I have a routine to run, a couple storys to tell, and qualifiers to
spit out (sound familiar) then I go into rapport it feels great and my
personality is flowing and energetic. I am following TylerDurden's 25
points etc etc. Things work!
I am not going to lie, it is beyond my reality. However I think I know
why you get so many hot women. Something must have clicked after you
read those dating books and now you have this charm and charisma. I
mean, how else do you intrigue, attract, and cause women to desire you?
If you aren't using canned material and stories to up your value, how
else? You must have this charm to you. That is the only other way
(unless you are rich and famous, but that isn't real seduction. That is
luck)
Well, you got something I do not have. You earned it. Through have the
bad life you lead and improving on in till now you have earned it.
However, I still have a great state when I am in the field most of the
time. Its not like I mope around in clubs, because no material will save
a depressed kid sarging. Material + good-state + good-flow/frame/etc are
what is needed.
My good state coupled with some cool things to run result in success. If
I don't have anything to say when I am sarging, the sarge ends. I get
nothing at all. The girls never say "you did well up to that point.
Either way BANG ME NOW". I don't know how else to put it. This isn't KJ
shit right here. However, when the chick wants me from the get-go, then
even when I do go silent, they are eager to fill in the gaps.
This is all I can say. It is what is true for me and my current reality.
I'd love to say that "I think I am the great catch, and all of a sudden
every girl I talk to melts for me" but that isn't true. I can honestly
say I suck with women unless I am doing Mystery Method».
I tried Gunwitch Method and it only seems to work if the girl seeks
rapport from me too. I know you chat with Gunny a lot on #PUA and I
assume you use GWM? GWM requires an assumption of rapport, which I think
is great... if you can do it. It feels too forced when the girl isn't
seeking at least a little rapport. Otherwise, as of now, all my
fucks/hook ups have been through using GWM (I still love you Gun even
though I haven't been in #PUA for awhile). However it feels way too much
like a number's game. I am also an IOI junkie, so indirect feels better
to me and one of these days I'll get M3 down cold.
I don't want to come off as a KJ (I mention that a lot. I HATE KJs). I
am just saying I tried the "I think therefore I am" stuff and it really
doesn't work for me... doesn't work at all. It doesn't spark interest,
intrigue, attraction, comfort, or anything. Its only good when riding
the vibe.
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