mASF post by "stevie_pua"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, January 1, 2003Over the past year or so I have seen my success rate in attracting HBs
skyrocket. Currently I am seeing the following girls/have them chasing me :-
Two Chinese HBs who I am banging, a very fit ballet dancer with a jealous
ex-husband, a cute Portuguese girl, a chick I met last week in a 5 set, and now
a HB I picked up last night who is VERY nice quality -maybe an 8.5
I want to recount my picking up of this hot chick last night and explain how I
did it, what was going through my mind and what techniques I used. BTW I am
finding many of these techniques are working for me consistently now and are
evolving into my own style.
I was out with Rubber in a nice wine bar. I had been waiting quietly for him to
arrive, and was not warmed up. When he arrived I knew that if I wanted to get
into a useful PU state, I’d need to get talkative, so I started talking and
talking. I find this energises my state and allows me to sell myself better. I
make sure now to always get warmed up and talkative.
Rubber and I got talking about his doing bootcamp and not listening to any AFC
songs anymore. We tried to think of Elvis songs which have no AFC lyrics. We
came up with a few, then as we talked, we spotted 2 HBs walk in and come stand
next to us at the bar. One was the 8.5 (Jade) early twenties, tall, long dark
hair, good body, and the other a cute HB in her late 30s/early 40s. Both were
well dressed.
Rubber launches into the theme of Elvis, as we were talking about him anyway.
He said "Do you know Elvis?". Now this opened them up, but, as I told Rubber
later on in the night when the sarge was over, you need to sell yourself a
little when making that initial opener. This is a realisation that has proved
correct over the past year as I have experimented with it.
SELLING YOURSELF IN THE OPENER
If you are a HB in a bar or a club, or anywhere really, chances are you are
going to get opened a lot if you are decent looking. These HBs get lame AFC
guys coming over to them a lot and asking questions like "Do you come here
often?"
The result of your asking an often heard question to her is you get an
often-accessed autopilot response from the HB. She thinks "another guy on the
make - no thanks". You can avoid this by selling yourself and making sure to
use openers which differentiate you from the other guys she had been approached
by before. If you are different in your opener and sell yourself in a unique
way you fry her circuits somewhat, put her autopilot on hold, and that allows
you to gain access to leading her into a state where she is suggestible.
What happened last night was Rubber opened with "Do you know Elvis?". That is
all he said initially. He got away with it, but for a couple of seconds she
looked at him and was processing what to say in response. He gave her a chance
to initiate autopilot, and that is something we want to avoid.
I recommended to him later that you KEEP GOING after your initial opening
words. If you keep going you have the chance to sell yourself to her before the
autopilot ever gets the chance to rise to the surface. If you keep going in
your opener and lead directly into a linked theme and tell a story or anecdote,
then you convey personality, show her you are a safe and normal guy to talk
with, and start to use other PU techniques on her.
What Rubber could have done to make his opener better was to link his initial
question to a story/quotes in order to sell himself. He could say "Do you know
Elvis? Because I was just saying to my friend Steve that in so many of his
songs, Elvis seems to be a victim, he always seems to have his heart broken by
some girl, and we were just trying to think of a song where Elvis is not heart
broken. Now, I suggested Viva Las Vegas, you know that one? And Steve came up
with Jailhouse Rock, but you know when you think about it, it’s quite difficult
to come up with some"
Don’t give her autopilot a chance to emerge. Establish yourself as someone
cool, fun and interesting to chat with. Smile, laugh, kino. Once you have done
that, bring in other PU techniques.
CONVEYING PERSONALITY
Rubber got into the above routine after a short time, but he could have done
better by launching straight into it. He did the Elvis Script. During the Elvis
Script I got the impression that the autopilot responses were emerging again.
They seemed to be evaluating what he was saying rather than letting go. I had
taken a step back from it all, had shut up, and was evaluating how well Rubber
could establish himself.
I think the HBs needed to see more animation and getting in state from Rubber.
I think Rubber had to genuinely convey that it IS weird that Elvis died his
hair, and that so did Prescilla. He said the words fine, but I think he needed
to get more into the feeling behind the script which would allow him to infect
the HBs with a buoyant, upbeat mood. You often only have a minute or less to
sell yourself to a target and pretty quickly you have to fascinate her or get
her feeling great or you risk stalling out. I think that was a slight danger
here with Rubber and the HBs. He was doing ok but I don’t think he was really
lighting them up. This reminds me of people who have been to the Mystery Method
Workshop and have said that when Mystery does the Elvis Script he gets amazing
results and when they do it they get average results - using the exact same
words. Mystery lights them up using his body language, facial expressions and
tonality.
WINNING THEM OVER
I stepped in at this point as I saw the risk of things stalling out. Briefly
what happened was I began getting them laughing, lighting them up by getting in
a tremendously out-going, fun state and conveying that state to them through my
body language, facial expressions and stories. I was very enthusiastic in what
I was saying and immediately the HBs were interested in talking with me. I set
a time frame on the interaction and threw in some social proof by saying we
didn’t have long to talk and I’d have to go soon as I had to meet another girl
in the bar next door. (Remember to only do this once you have got them
interested). This is a psychological takeaway of sorts as you imply you are
going to deny the HBs a continuing of something they are enjoying. It also
increases your value.
After about 15 minutes of working on these HBs I could see they were
interested. It was time to go and meet the girl (I really had arranged to meet
another HB - the one from the 5 set last week).
My one mistake here was not to close the HB for a number. I am pretty sure I
could have got it. As it turns out, the HBs came to bar next door and found us
a little later.
CLOSING
After going to another bar with Rubber, and opening a tough 5 set (3 guys and 2
girls) purely for practice (BTW I managed it but had to cycle through tons of
themes until I got a bite from the one guy in the group who I could see was not
won over in the initial themes), we returned to the "next door bar" and guess
who was there waiting to see us? You guessed it …. The 8.5 HB and the other HB
(who it turns out is her MOTHER!!!! MILF, oh yes!).
I went to work on Jade 8.5 while Rubber went to work on the MILF. I patterned
Jade using ideal man and she DDBed. She said she had never met anyone like me
before. I upped the kino and closed her for a number, got it very easily,
kissed both HBs goodnight and left.
I wish I’d been able to record it, but that peacocking shirt I was wearing is
too damn tight and thin to hide a mic underneath it properly.
All in all, a great pick up with a pretty hot HB.
"You and me baby ain't nothing but mammals..."
Stevie PUA
"I'D APPRECIATE INPUT"
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