mASF post by "Mystery"
posted on: USENet: alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, September 9, 2001My rant follows:
> As far as Mystery's Web site goes, I'd first spend a couple bucks and
> get a real domain name like www.mysterymethod.com».
yeah Ill get around to it all when I have the time and energy to devote to
it. Im in no hurry. My AMBITION is to get OUT into clubs and not hack around
too much on a website. I built the CONTENT for a site and Ill leave it to a
designer to make it all pretty. This site is FIRST DRAFT. But thanks for the
ideas I will strongly consider them all for the future of the site.
Second, I'd make
> sure all my pics loaded and all links worked, and third I'd hire
> somebody to do the sell copy for the thing.
how bout I hire people AFTER Ive made money from the venture. You dont
invest money from OTHER ventures to get this one going. Its ONLY workshops
... Im not devoting my LIFE to this project. Im devoting my SKILLSET to this
project. And guess what? I wont be doing these forever. I have much bigger
fish to fry. My workshop is a limited opportunity to learn why I know. Once
I move on, I will be dropping the whole PUA skin - afterall ... the mystery
method is based on what I DO. Its what WORKS. I dont have to TRY any more.
This is all INTERNALIZED ... like driving a car. I dont actually have to
THINK about it ... I just DRIVE. In REAL LIFE, Im not a PROFESSIONAL PUA.
There's no such thing. Im a real person who happens to have an INTEREST in
girls. I treat them ALL wonderfully. I dont hit on ANY of them unless they
show IOIs. And then, I dont actually CALL all of the #s I get (hey, they
dont always call us guys so thats fair). I have fun doing this. And its all
about being SOCIAL. I enjoy it. I get to mingle and make friends. My PURPOSE
was not to one day do a workshop - doing a workshop is actually a FAVOR ...
since I have the time and would like to travel a bit. That's where the money
I make is going. Flights, hotels, food, car. That's it. This isnt a fucking
CAREER. And guess what? I ordinarily dont HANG OUT with 5 guys in a club.
Nobody would get a chance to get my knowledge if I didnt do a workshop like
this. The info would likely die with me. So, Ill travel, help out some guys
get great at the game so they can lead fuller lives and we are all happy.
And then ... I wont do any more workshops and Ill get into more interesting
things. Truth is, I get girls. I really shouldnt put so much THOUGHT on it
anymore. I just have time on my hands I guess. After these workshops ... Im
OUT. Ill be out of the PUA. Ill be out of this asf thing. Ill keep the
friends I made from it but I wont contribute anymore. This is an ERA. It
will one day be gone. Truth is ... Im not even a PUA. Im a ladies man. My
online persona is not who I am in real life. Im not a PUA in real life. Im
ME. Im not MYSTERY. I have a real name and life and career. I dont talk
about the PUA to people I meet in real life. The ONLY reason I talk about it
here is because Im keeping the NG ON TOPIC. I have many interests besides
the PUA. My CENTRAL interest is feeling a CONNECTION with a woman. So my
life centers around that. Intellectualizing what I do was to help others as
well as CLARIFY to myself what I do. Then you know what? I dont THINK about
it. I just ENJOY the game. Its like martial arts. When you get really good,
you fight. You dont THINK and then fight. You dont even get NERVOUS ... you
just ACT. its as if your body counters FOR YOU. Its automatic. Same here.
Oh and BTW, all these TERMINOLOGIES I've come up with over the last three
years? I dont actually call girls TARGETS. That's just a fun way to
visualize what is going on when WRITING about the social engagements. Would
you like to know where is ALL COMES FROM? A fucking movie! Can you guess
which one?
TOP GUN.
AhHAAAAA. NOW you get it. Watch the movie and you will hear every term we
use thanks to me. You guys take this game so seriously because you arent
getting laid and this can be quite emotionally evoking ... loneliness sucks.
Ive been there. but guess what? Im GETTING laid regularly now ... so I dont
take any of this seriously. When Im on this NG, I fill the MYSTERY role ...
I talk tersely, bluntly, matter of fact, and use the TOP GUN terminology
everyone else now uses. But in real life? please. I go out to have FUN. Sure
it's somewhat tactical ... but that's NATURAL. If a guy wants to meet a girl
... he needs a game plan right? whether you are a PUA or not.
>When I read the line that
> goes, "Mystery enjoys deluding himself into thinking that a nightclub
> is a Star Trek HOLODECK that presents several scenarios for him to
> practice," I thought.. whaaa, did Ross or somebody hack into this site
> and post weird shit about Mystery "deluding himself"??? Why "deluding
> himself"?? It just threw me for a second, but a second's all ya need
> to blow the sale.
I have so many people interested in my workshop it'll keep me busy for
almost too long. Remember, its not a seminar where I can just add more
people to the same days. I want 3 to 5 people per seminar. 5 TOPS. Im not in
this for the MONEY. The money pays for my trip expenses. thats it. It may
put a little extra cash in my back pocket too - thats fair ... hell, you
wont get the knowledge I have any other way. Im sure AFCs know ... they dont
get a chance to hang with the PUAs normally. We dont hang with AFCs ... we
are hanging with GIRLS and other PUAs only. Its like in highschool - there's
the A crowd and the ONLY way to get into it if you werent already there was
to PAY one of them to be your friend. OK not that bad but you've seen the
same story in lots of coming of age movies.
> The pics of mystery and chicks in obviously natural bar settings are
> great, but I'd like to see pics of Mystery and THE GUYS HE'S TEACHING
> with chicks on them. He could put one of those little black boxes
> over each guy's eyes if he doesn't want his pic on the site.
the pictures of NOT of me. I am NOT going to associate my REAL persona to
the PUA and fuck up my own game. Those pix were taken in the clubs I goto
... but NONE are of ME. I dont want people thinking Im a PUA in real life.
If I REALLY wanted to fuck so many girls, I would have. I want QUALITY and I
will NOT SETTLE FOR LESS. Yes Ive had many girls but not a SICK AMOUNT I
think. There are guys (male strippers) who have had sex with literally
THOUSANDS of girls. Im not after that. Im not in it for the sex. I love the
attention and the emotional connection I get with the women. I love the
POWER I feel in KNOWING women desire me and cant have me. Im nice to
everyone I meet. I actually like people. really. Even the guys I meet. Sure
I call them OBSTACLES but that word is there only to tell us that we need to
make him our FRIEND and gain his RESPECT before we move on to our TARGET
(the women we genuinely find attractive). These words are very MILITARISTIC
though the actual game isnt. I've made it SEEM militaristic because of TOP
GUN. It's fun to talk this way. You can see such similarities between a
military campaign and the game. But guess what? its still a GAME. Sure,
until you internalize it all and dont have to think about any of it, its got
STRATEGY, but hell ... what's action without a little thought before you
act? just REACTION.
My point? I dont see myself really as a PUA. That's not WHO I AM. I'm a
performer. I do something completely different. But in many ways, being a
performer is LIKE a PUA. And therefore, the PUA is LIKE being a PERFORMER.
So Ive taken MY experience and offered it to YOU over the years to help YOU
get what YOU want. Ive gotten something out of it too. Understanding of
social dynamics and that will help MY ART. If we strip away all the TERMS
from TOP GUN, and exchange them for another MOTIF, he have a NEW game. Same
3d shooter, different skins on the people. From western shootout to alien
shootout. same game, different skins on the people we shoot. In REAL LIFE I
dont convey TOP GUN ... thats my gig in HERE. In real life I convey ... a
sense of MYSTERY. You know why? Because I LIVE that way. I love candles and
incense. I love how the mind works. I love showing people things. I love to
teach. These are things I genuinely LOVE doing. I enjoy meeting people and
giving them ne things to think about. I dont teach guys the PUA. I dont tell
them about it. I tell them about the mysterious things in life ... I enjoy
it. It makes them THINK. Its entirely a different MOTIF from the top gun
motif here. And that is what I think will create problems in the future.
people will take my posts from the archives and associate them with the REAL
ME. They'll say, "did YOU write this?" And Ill say, "No. That was MYSTERY,
my ALTER EGO." Ross has come up with an amazing way to BE the same guy he is
online: he can TELL girls what he does ... "he teaches butt ugly guys
self-improvement techniques". That is PERFECT. I too will tell girls who
find out I do a mystery method workshop that. but what about those who see
me on tv doing my REAL THING? they'll associate ME to MYSTERY. They will
think mystery IS me. they will think I actually am a PUA and not a ladies
man. And guess what? the same goes for ALL OF YOU! You wouldnt want your
girlfriends reading your posts here right? Well guess what? I have THOUSANDS
of posts. Sure, a lot are RAY FLAMES haaa, but some are REALLY detailed. And
they are written in this wonderfully politically incorrect TOP GUN motif. I
didnt write it in the motif of my REAL life. When someone is a PERFORMER,
people understand why your lifestyle is a certain way. But if my posts get
associated with my promotional campaign for my shows ... what happens there?
Well ... this is sorta like the tommy lee video coming out. It's not GOOD
but Ill recover and life goes on. There will be HATE sites and FAN sites.
And the HATE sites will connecct MYSTERY to ME and say, "look at this
asshole. look how he STALKS inncent unsuspecting women", not understanding
that the real me does not TOP GUN it out there in the real world. Who will
likely spearhead the HATE WEBSITES? Well RAY of course haa. He'll want the
whole WORLD knowing how I'm "actually" a "lowlife pickup artistwho
"scammed" his way into the spotlight. I worry about this a bit because Im
close to getting the funding I need for a production and thats when it gets
serious. The last thing I need is for RAY'S comments to be out of context
too. My posts seem REALLY insensitive, ESPECIALLY when people dont take the
time to educate themselves on the CULTURE in this newsgroup. "What? He posts
to alt.seduction.FAST? Deplorable!"
Let this be historical evidence that Im AWARE of the situation. I am NOT a
PUA ... but yes I am a ladies man and I enjoy the pleasure of women's
company. I tried to help myself and others by systematically observing
myself in social gatherings and breaking it down so other could do the same.
And that's not a bad thing - having other people behave as gentlemenly to
women as me (but not taking their shit). I am QUALITY over QUANTITY. I have
written a lot of my SOCIAL DYNAMICS ideas in a really shitty FORMAT (TOP GUN
shit talk) and it fits in well here in this NG culture. MYSTERY is a GHOST
in my head ... a demon if you will. And one day I will exorcise him from my
body when I have found the one (or two) women who are of such QUALITY that I
would never WANT to be with another woman. One day in magazine interviews
Ill be asked, "Ive read all your posts. Are you a womanizer?" The good news
is, very FEW women will provide testimonials to support this because quite
frankly, I only HIT on the girls who are 1) attractive enough and 2) provide
IOIs. There will be a few ex GFs who will be pissed but EVERY celeb has THAT
haaa.
The question is: what IF ... what IF the real me becomes a CELEB (and for
being MYSTERY)?
what would happen? its INEVITABLE that fans who research me would connect me
to MYSTERY. They find out, "holy shit .. look at all this."
so what are your suggestions gentlemen?
> All this, IMHO, of course.
thanks for really putting your mind to my project. all very good point bro.
Ive got a dude working on a designed version of the site elsewhere. I wont
spend money on it til I make money on it. BTW, my rant was not fueled by
your post at all. Im just thinking things out for the hell of it. :)
Mystery
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