mASF post by "Design"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, April 4, 2005On 4/28/05 3:47:00 PM, Bilogomja wrote:
>thanks for the advice guys
>
>all right heres the deal, I
>just called her and I told her
>I'd help her if I got
>something in return, she was
>naming everything off from
>food to vicoden, and I was
>like nah I can get that stuff
>anywhere, then FINALLY she was
>like "something sexual?" and I
>was like "that could be
>arranged" and she was like "no
>I have a boyfriend, I wouldn't
>cheat on him," "thats called
>being a whore," etc. and then
>we went into this long talk
>(it was like a 15 min phone
>call). She was laughing,
>giggling, I was doing the NEG
>hit thing, but she wouldnt
>budge, so I finally said "I'd
>help you out, but I'm not
>getting anything in return, so
>I'll have to pass" and that
>was the end of our
>conversation. I dont feel
>dissapointed for some reason,
>but great because I finally
>got an answer (I cant cheat on
>my boyfriend), I finally put
>the shit out there on the
>table and since I didnt get
>anything I walked away
>humbley. I know I'm just
>starting this whole "pick up"
>thing so aka I'm a rafc. But
>this seems like a pretty good
>path to start. I actually got
>the balls to get some sort of
>an answer.
Huge tactical error. You tried to get her to commit to sex over the phone.
Even if a girl is open to fucking you, she generally will not make a logical
decision that is likely to lead to sex. That's how ASD works. You put her in a
position where she had to do that and thus you got the BF objection.
Notice that she WAS willing to "pay" to get you over. That's all you wanted --
an opportunity to be in isolation with her in a context where you could seduce
her (i.e., not studying). When she offered food, that's when you say, "Okay,
but you had better know how to cook." Once you get her alone you can escalate
kino and fuck her.
Fact is, she may or may not have a boyfriend, but it doesn't matter either way.
That's NOT what stopped you from laying her. It's that you put her in a
position where she had to CHOOSE whether or not she was going to offer you sex.
And she chose the way girls almost always will.
Even worse, however, is that you were framing sex as a form of payment rather
than a mutual reward. Unless this girl really wants to feel like a prostitute,
that's BAD.
Anyway though, it's okay...we all make mistakes...just learn from this one.
Design
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