mASF post by "sreomon"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, April 4, 2005Guys,
I will admit that in the nearly 2 years I've been in the game, I've mainly
persued 6-8s. A month ago, I decided I need to kick my game into higher gear
and start aiming higher because I feel I really DO deserve to be with BEAUTIFUL
women, I'm not settling anymore. HBHawaii was one of the first super HOT SHBs
I met, and learned a great deal from her. I've read how SHBS are fundementally
different from HBs 7-8s, but to experience it first hand was very powerful.
These chicks, know how to leverage there beauty VERY well, and they really do
believe that the world REVOLVES around them. Just going place and festivals,
people would walk up and take her pictures.
One recent instance, I went to a local DC cherry blossom festival,and as we
were walking down by the waterfront, a photographer asks can I take your
picture. I chuckle and say sure, and as we pose together he says, "oh not you,
I want to take a picture of just her". WTF, talk about a NEG hit. I jaw fell
to the ground. She's standing there posing for several pictures as Mr. PUA
sreomon is on the sidelines watching.
I needed to go back to the woodwork, and look at my STACK again, throw
somethings out, and add some new stuff. More NEGs, getting them to chase me,
adding value, social proof. In the past it was enough to just walk up and do
cold approaches but to get SHBs, its NOT possible, you NEED pivots, social
proof, social circle.
So I have made efforts to build a social circle start going out with friends,
rather than PUAs. I usually do 3-4 sets a night because they usually go well,
but if my wing is doing 10 sets at each bar, and walking away after the opener,
it really looks bad.
Also, the world of PIVOTS, I need to learn more about this. In the past couple
weeks, I first started sarging SHBs and 1 out of 5 turned out for a DAY 2. Not
good, so I then started using social proof, my dancing ability, and # closed
another hottie. I called her, but I feel like I lost it because she was
initially attracted to me, because I was that really good DANCER guy at the
club and the girls wanted to dance with, I increased her social value. I failed
to continue adding social value, and/or failed to show how I am unlike any of
the other guys in her HUGE social circle of more hotties. Thirdly, I started
using a pivot. My friends GF, likes to dance, and we have a good time, we'll I
danced with her in the club as all the other chicks watched and then took her
into set. I OPENED MUCH easier...BUT my pivot felt uncomfortable and ejected
but it was good in enough to stay in set with my target.
I need to learn more about PIVOTS...in doing a couple of sets, they are VERY
effective. I can no longer do cold approaches alone, I need to use pivots, mix
sets, social proof/value, etc to get SHBs...
So about pivots...my questions, how to get them into set? what is their role?
should they contribute to the thread? What happens in the first 5 minutes?
After LJBF, how to effectively use a pivot? Good routinues to allow
interaction between pivot and targert/set?
I did a search on pivots and didn't get anything interesting...any good posts
to check out?
I looked at:
http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/08_Related_Articles/pivot_theory.shtml
Nothing there I don't already know.
-Sreomon
aim:sreomon
email: sre***n@gm***.com[ ? ]
"Love the game, and play everyday."
Washington, DC
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