mASF post by "imperfect" posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, April 4, 2005On 4/16/05 8:31:00 PM, TylerDurden wrote: >Perhaps there should be a >little box beside the poster's >name that shows his goals in >the game. > >For example, a guy who wants >to meet a nice girl and settle >down doesn't have the same >goals as a guy who wants to be >a master pickup artist> >Really, most of the >disagreement on the chat forum >comes from guys with different >goals. > > >-TD >RSD (c) 2005 >100% Content - 0 % Political >Flame Bullshit
I think that this is actually a reason why ASF, or the over-analyzing view that
comes from it, hurts people instead of help.
First off, having all of this stuff down first, as in before trying to add
ANYTHING to your game or personality, is extremely important. If you are not
as good as a "natural" or "normal", then trying to add anything will mess you
up (from my expierence and everyone who I have met and sarged with through
ASF).
And a "natural" or "normal" can do a lot more than just settle down with a nice
girl. He should be able to easily sleep with 2 or 3 new girls a month,
ESPECIALLY if he goes out 4 days a night, 4-6 hours a day just to try to meet
girls, and calls all his numbers, which from what I read in one of your earlier
posts, is on average what a good PUA does.
I think that what you do is confuse cause and effect. I read your archive a
while back, and if I remember right, weren't you into rugby and weightlifting
for a while? And hanging out at frats and just acting normal? Plus didn't you
basically agree with stuff like this on your "wear cool clothes and act normal"
post a while back? I think that if you do all that and go out and interact
with a lot of women and follow the 5 steps I advise, you will get good.
Consciensly thinking and worrying about "owning the frames" and "elicitating
value and escelating value at proper time" will make you worse, it's better to
just leave that stuff out.
I'm not trying to attack or just argue with you, just get everything clear. In
all honesty, which do you think is better for a guy who isn't already a
"natural" or "normal": to do what I advise, or to learn 6 hours of routines and
theory and then approach moving girls on the street for a few hours and then
girls at a club for a few hours? Both the guys I sarged with who took your
workshop followed your structure, not mine, so I really am curious.
This is how I see it: all the "advanced" stuff you learn, you either already
knew subconscienly, or only really learn it (as in able to use it)
subconsciensly by going out and being around a lot of girls. Worrying about
all of it only makes you worse.
Thanks everyone for the replies. Remember that the more you like yourself, the
more girls like you too.
-imperfect
(spreadtheplague on aim)
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