mASF post by "Alessandro"
posted on: mASF forum: Tactics / Techniques Discussion, August 8, 2004Wat's up motherbitches :-D
Totally not inventing a new word here, there is actually a highly
advanced technique I would call FREEZING. It is meant as a last resort
and is useful for chicks who WILL cut you off before you deliver your
game, either verbally or kino. I also used it last night on an LMR and
had her stay longer.
This is _really_ advanced stuff, and it takes deep conviction, first in
your OWN abilities, and second, in her need to be with you. If you don't
think a girl is BEST off with you, then forget it. Freezing is for girls
who would normally choose you, but are now making uninformed decisions
to do otherwise. It is your way of telling her "Don't be STUPID, I am HERE".
You can stand in a room full of people, spot a girl and just INSTANTLY
know she is looking for you. This girl wont go out of her way to find
you, so you will need to make yourself stand out. Most of the time, you
wont have that many chances to show yourself; her friends will come and
cut her off, her ASDs are in high gear after a night of lame sleazy guys
hitting on her, or just she is shy.
Freezing is just a powerful way to slap her upside the head, shake up
her confusion and have her come to her senses and realize that you're
here and you're what she has been waiting for. "Okay sweetie, let's get
out of here now that we've met." Your conviction in this theory will
grow the more you find girls who felt their BEST when with you, then you
will realize you're really one of a kind and normal guy/girl rules need
not apply to you.
Like most techniques, it comes in body-language, verbal and physical
variety. You can freeze a girl with body language say, when you spot her
being gamed by a lame-o and you go up to her with a "Is he stupid or
something?" face. I can tell bad game and feel the pain for girls. If
you see a guy standing a foot away from a girl and talking about his
vacation, you can just go to her, put your arm behind her and just go
"WTF? is everything OK sweetheart [touch her forehead to check
temperature] you look sorta tired, what have you been doing?". This is
actually an opener of mine.
Sometimes you will see girls leaving a club plugging their ears and
trying ignore all the pickup linesThat pains me alot, what a waste of
imagination. I mean, when ALL guys do the same shit, what kind of fresh
out of the conveyor-belt women are they expecting to get; fuck the
cookie cutter formula. Just go up to her with a sad face like "[this is
terrible and disgusting]" then verbally acknowledge the tragedy
"ewwwww". If you can do stuff with your face, you can stand back 10
feet, express your disgust with the AFCs and she will reply with
acknowledgment. Then you can raise your eyebrows or throw you arms up in
the air "[Oh well, what can we do]", once you get a reply, you can walk
with her and start talking "I actually had a worse night than you, these
pants make me a total guy-magnet", and BOOM.
What I mentioned above is mostly showing understanding by mirroring from
a distance. If she keeps EC, you did well, if she breaks it, she still
thinks you're one of the losers and you will need to do more. Read on.
I used the verbal pieces when the body language bit didn't work. As I
type this, I am realizing I am HEAVY on the body language!
Usually, I start talking when she breaks EC and walks away. An attitude
heavily influenced by TD's 25 points (read that piece of art) specially
bits on not being needy, not turning your body towards her yet, not over
compensating, not being bold, not trying hard, etc. I use semi negative
statements; their general underlying theme is "I feel sorry for you",
"why are you acting up now? you were FINE earlier", "Oh god, way to make
an ass of yourself", "it is ME". I rarely utter these quoted phrases, I
just THINK in them and something analogous yet unique comes out. Keep in
mind not to voice *despair* when you're talking AFTER a girl (it is
sometimes the case that I start talking after she walks away, I don't
walk after her, just stop where I am and talk loudly but calmly after
her) despair is bad, it is needy, you need to think "Your loss, just
don't call me later because I will hang up on you." Again, you have
NEVER met this girl, but you assume all this shit in your head because
you have seen TONS like her already, and they always ended up loving
you. Read up on Gunwitch's rapport assumption bit, but don't push it,
assuming too much is creepy and sometimes girls prefer to "get to know"
a guy, because they enjoy the process of discovering he is very much
like them (what would we do without mirroring?)
Sometimes the girls will never stop, they will keep walking. Even if you
stack challenging lines and bait her into stopping ("Well, you're not
only clueless, but your ass is not as good looking as mine.") Here, I
will advocate walking after her, but from now on, learn to open girls
while you're walking on front of them. If they REALLY REALLY hate you,
they will cross the street, but if you're just funny, non-needy and just
pulling their leg, they will walk along with you and hear you out. Back
to topic, if a girl walks away, walk after her but pay attention to body
language. As you talk after her, if you can see her smile or get giggly,
she is just shy and not used to PU or is waiting for you to leave her
alone because she knows she will fall for you; pick the pace and don't
draw attention to a girl like this, get personal quick. Elsem just walk
after her a good couple of feet back and project your voice. "This town
really blows; not only are the girls rude and annoying, the guys are
kinda not sexy at all. JUST checkout these fashion crimes. YOU KNOW
you're the biggest fashion criminal aren't you? you're like SOOOO from
that Duran Duran video [pause] yeah, THAT one." If she has any sense of
humor, she will stop, slowdown, laugh or turn around. Stay light, safe,
and funny. If you can sound even the LEAST bit gay, she will stop,
guaranteed "OMG, you're like OH, SOOO NOT COOL, GIRLFRIEND. My mom had
that purse in 1969."
If a girl is walking away or turning away not because she is shutting
off guys, but because she just doesn't wanna hear pick up lines, and you
can cold-read that she could be romantic, you SHOULD lay NLP game on
thick. Assume rapport, hold her hands and go heavy. Warning though, if
she heard alot of romance crap, this might backfire, but if you believe
in what you say and can execute shit professionally, she will melt.
Sometimes they will tell you they heard that before, don't say "this is
completely different shit", just accuse her of being a cold heat bitch
"REALLY :-( what is it about you that makes people confess? you DO have
a sad spark in your eyes, I wonder if you broke many hearts .. I also
wonder if you had yours broken :-( [inquisitive look] sweety? were you
ever hurt?" Just don't fall off your frame.
Me and Sreomon bombed on a three-set and he ejected. I just caught a
spark in one girl's eye, she was fucking horny. Actually, when he
introduced me to the set, I hugged the first two (they offered me
handshakes) and I *READ* the third girl as horny, so i lifted her up
high and she went wild. Later when we bombed, I still knew she was horny
so I stopped her. They kept walking "ok guys, we have to go now, nice
meeting you", then I stopped the horny chick and turned her away from
her friends so she couldn't see them walk away. I think she was a bit
tipsy, so I started forcing attention:
Me: [holding both her hands] LISTEN LISTEN, JUST LISTEN
Me: sweety [sympathetic face]
Me: ever met someone for the first time and
Me: and you KNEW from the start that he was DIFFERENT than everybody
else you met before?
Me: he, unlike the rest of them
Me: was someone you KNEW you could trust and be comfortable with?
Me: like, you knew him for a long time .. maybe waiting for him
Me: and now that he is here .. you could see yourself taking that
familiar stem to make sure you be with him
Me: if only for the moment?
Me: because sweety ..
[I held her hand and walked after her friends, wing joins in]
Me: because there moments we end up cherishing forever
Me: we never know what the future holds for us
Me: we never know when a normal evening turns to MEMORABLE
Me: you never know that years from now, you will be sitting on front of
the mirror, smiling
Me: and remembering all the sweet things that happened tonight ..
That is a standard from the texts, DAFS. It is called Incredible
Connection, props to RJ, then I transition to Natural Woman, etc. You
know the deal. All I am saying is, if you can feel that way for only a
few minutes, and you know you're the man she is waiting for, you know
what to do to express yourself and win over your girl. Rejection be damned.
Just make sure to stress the idea "this is very UNLIKE anything you have
seen, this is different, this is better", and you will come up with your
own freezers. Just don't forget to pull back later and don't lean in too
much.
Onto the real physical freezers.
If you talked to alot of girls, you know they love to be hugged. Ask any
girl what is a good hug, she will tell you the hard squeezes (not so
hard though) just the deep, warm, "I can feel you all over me" hugs.
Also, listen to when girls talk about hot guys; they always open their
arms apart, then hug themselves and make that "Umghf" sound, like
they're squeezing something. Women like hard things, but you know what?
they also like pretty and aloof things. So the third freezer is a
combination warm squeezing hugs/massages and back scratches; that is
right, you mix squeezing with skin rubs and scratches to create a good
overall feeling. I did this last night after the target tried to run
away from make out because we spent too much time kissing in the parking
lot and she had to go to bed. I pulled her back, put my chin on her
shoulder and gave her a back massages, up ... down, then clawed her back
from down ... up, it is like a see-saw ride of pleasure. She started
directing my hands!
A week ago, I gamed a three-set of two UGs and an HB. The HB was already
taken by a British guy I see every night I go out, so when I gamed her,
she just ran back and told him all the fun stuff I did to her, sort of
gaming him with my material. I went for the UGs, decided to win them
over and take all three home and go for her latter. One UG loved the
see-saw massage (I did it unknowingly back then, and thought they just
liked me because I looked hotter than most guys there) at first she
asked for a personal space "dude, you're very touchy", so I told her
"Yeah, you really shouldn't feel this good" and clawed her back, up,
down, up down, then put my hands on her sides and drew deep circles on
her back with my thumbs, up down, up down. She melted.
Even much earlier, two weeks ago. I was gaming a three-set where the
hottest girl broke up with boyfriend and they were still fighting in the
bar. I joined the other two and they cut me off and told me to fuck off,
then I started pointing at guys and saying "he is hot, I would do him".
I passed off as gay and they opened up pretty quick. The girl I was
interested in said explicitly she likes straight guys with big dicks, so
I just went behind her and squeezed hugged her "ooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh you
poor thing". Then while hugging her, I twisted her left and right and
started talking to her like a baby:
Me: tell me baby
Me: are you a a big gurl or a little gurl?
Her: [whispering] I am a little gurl
Me: are you daddy's little good girl or his little bad girl?
Her: I am his little good girl
Me: ooohhhhhhhh, come here [HUG SQUEEZE]
Me: daddy loves you
then I ran my hand all over her, felt her thighs, told her "daddy is
gonna be good to you. daddy loves every bit of you. you need
looooooooooove", etc.
And she was the one telling me to fuck off the most!
I hope I made sense, I had my dick sucked last night but she didn't stay
for the fuck, so I am compensating for my LMR failure with a totally
unrelated post :-P
--
"I picked her up by sarging an entire Boeing on a US transatlantic
flight (what the fuck else was I going to do on a jet for 6 fucking
hours?)" -- Maniac High
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