mASF post by "ajhorst"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, December 12, 2004My transformation- AFC to PUA
This is my story of how I changed myself from a typical AFC to a PUA. I am not
trying to brag at all, and hopefully other AFCs can learn something from my
experiences.
My story begins when I was in 13 years old. I remember having a season pass to
an amusement park, and my best friend and I would go every week and pick up
other 13-16 year old girls. I would always be the one to approach, and would
use some lame ass line like, “Do I know you from somewhere…I swear I’ve seen
you,” and continue the conversation from there. I guess the line worked so well
at the time because we were probably some of the first guys to ever approach
them.
Most of the time we would end up making out with whoever we approached by the
end of the night. This was before we fully hit puberty, so naturally we didn’t
give a shit weather or not anything would happen. We were just having a good
time, not seeking approval, and naturally doing all the right things. Then a
year later I became a full blown AFC.
My AFC era officially began when I had my first official “girlfriend” when I
was 14. I did all the right things to attract her, but when we had a
“relationship,” I tried to do all the things I saw in the movies, and what my
mom told me to do. You know, spending money on her and generally kissing her
ass. That is what I thought men were supposed to do. I told her I loved her and
had strong feelings for her. (I probably got that idea from watching Kevin and
Windy on The Wonder Years.) As you would probably guess, she dumped me for this
other kid who was, as I thought, a complete jerk.
I did stay friends with her, and that was officially the first time I had been
LJBFed. From thence on I was a complete AFC. I didn’t even kiss another girl
until I got in a LTR when I was 16 years old. She was a cute cheerleader who I
honestly accidentally attracted. I was never a shy kid, somewhat popular in
high school, and I was on the football team. She happened to be in one of my
classes where I generally acted like a dick to the teacher and was the class
clown. Anyways, I went out with her all through high school, and she completely
molded me into a super AFC.
While I was going out with her, I did have sex with three other girls…and I had
absolutely no idea how I got them to have sex with me. It baffled me because I
would show no interest and always make fun of them. Then they would start
making out with me, take off my cloths, and ask if I had a condom. I just
passed them off as complete sluts, and had no idea I was simply doing all the
right things.
After a year of college my girlfriend and I broke up (She turned out to be a
complete psycho). I then made the decision to not have another relationship for
a while and “have fun.” Well, if you consider a whole year of not getting laid
or even kissing a girl “fun,” then I was successful.
Like most AFCs, I really had no Idea that what I was doing wrong. I always
thought that there was no such thing as guys who could go out whenever they
want and get laid. I specifically remember watching that movie 40 days and 40
nights thinking that there was no way a guy could actually have a problem
because he was having sex with too many women.
Remember the girl I went out with when I was 14? Well, I was still in LJBF
land, and I tried desperately like a typical AFC to get out of it. By now she
was an sbh. She is July in the Hooters 2003 calendar…I’m sure you can do a
google search to look her up. I never understood why she was having sex with
all these assholes she first met, and wondered why she couldn’t see that I was
so much of a better guy; and would treat her much better. She would always call
me to cry and bitch about the last guy she fucked. I know many AFCs have been
in this same situation, and I feel for you.
Along with this girl, I got LJBFed by pretty much every girl I came in contact
with. I made all the typical AFC mistakes like taking girls out to dinner,
asking them where they wanted to eat, telling them they are beautiful, and then
telling them how much they mean to me. I would tell girls that I was falling
for them, only to have them get creeped out and immediately LJBF me.
All right, now for the good stuff…How I became a PUA. My journey didn’t start
until last March. I got so frustrated with myself that I did a google search on
getting laid. I then came to ASF, and the transformation began. This was right
before Spring Break, so I wanted answer on how I could get laid on my trip to
Mexico and South Padre.
I ended up buying the book DYD, printing the whole thing out, and reading it on
the 5hr drive to South Padre. I instantly found out what I was doing wrong, and
it also allowed me to see just what I did right on the few times I did actually
get laid. DYD just made since to me, so now I was charged up. BTW, I’m not
trying to say DYD will solve every AFCs problems, that just happened to be the
first material I read on the subject. I probably would have gotten the same
reaction to the Players Guide.
I tried all the things I learned in DYD on the girls we met up with for Spring
Break like C&F and ball-busting. This all came naturally for me. Pretty much
all I did was not censure myself and act like a wuss. I ended up in a sleeping
bag with one of the girls, but didn’t have sex with her despite about all the
IOIs in the world. I was still nervous to take it to the next step, and needed
to work on my inner game». Still, it was an improvement, and I was excited.
When I got home, I read just about everything on seduction there was. I visited
asf every day, and even ordered the Advanced DYD series. Guys, just reading and
learning won’t bring you success…you have to grow balls and actually DO the
things you read about. I used to think that if I bought just one more e-book,
or read that one magic technique, that I would all of the sudden have
success…Not the case, and every PUA will tell you that.
Long story short, I went out and got better through baby steps, and graduated
to the PUA I am today. I’m not going to make this post longer than it needs to
be with a bunch of LRs…I will post some of those later. I am going to tell you
guys what I did to make myself better, and the obstacles I’ve overcome.
Guys, I know you hear this all the time, but I figure I will drill this in even
more…INNER GAME» IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. After you have inner game», everything
else will take care of itself.
Approach anxiety was one of my biggest problems. The thing that helped me out
the most was self anchoring…that’s right, self anchoring. Passing on this in
working to become a PUA is a huge mistake. Its not psychological bullshit, it
works. Try it. You know how you get that “OH SHIT” emotion the second you see
flashy lights in your rear view mirror? Well, that’s an anchor. That was the
example that hit home with me in, I believe, in HSM.
What I do to place my confidence anchor is listen to that song, “We are the
Champions” by queen, and visualize the time when I scored the winning touchdown
in my last high school football game against our cross-town rivals. I always
get this tingly feeling, and right at its height, I flick my wrist. After a
week of doing this, I can now flick my wrist and get confidence any time I
want. This emotion completely kicks that approach anxiety emotion’s ass.
After I did this, I could walk up and talk to any woman. Guys, YOU DON’T NEED
CANNED OPENERS. It doesn’t matter what the fuck you say. Really, take my
fucking word for it…please. Trying to have the perfect thing to say in opening
is what set me back in my journey. You can say ANYTHING to a girl when
approaching. It doesn’t matter. As long as you have inner game» and aren’t
nervous, it doesn’t matter. After the intruder like “Hey guys,” or “hey” just
say SOMETHING. Then, after she comments, try to get into a funny story, or
whatever. Now is the time to act cool and do the things you read about on ASF.
Again, you can say anything as long as you are confident, cocky, and funny.
Another thing I did to significantly improve my game was work on my body
language. This is another biggie, and it actually got me immediate results.
Everyone who has read anything on seduction knows what Alpha body language is,
so I won’t get into the specifics. On a bus, a woman actually opened me by
commenting on the way I was sitting. She said something along the lines of,
“Wow, you look really relaxed.” I was just taking up a lot of space, with my
arm stretched out over the other seat, and having slow movements. Any AFC
reading this, DAFS on body language, and DO IT immediately. It will help a lot.
I remember my neck and back muscles actually being sore from keeping my chest
out and my head up for the first time.
Another tool I used was the hot-tub. Guys, if you have a hot-tub at your house
or apartment, USE IT. It’s an easy way to get girls to come back to your place
after the club closes. Luckily, I live in Austin and all of the bars close at
2:00. There is something about hot tubs that make girls horny. If you are in a
group situation, don’t be afraid to tell girls to take their tops off. If you
are persistent and ask in a fun way, they will usually comply. Hot tubs are
also a great place to play truth or dare. I have some great dares I always use
that I will post in the future. There are also some great posts on truth or
dare in the archives.
The next thing I did to improve my game is learn how to overcome slut defense
while progressing from kissing to the next level. You guys know, when a girl
says, “I don’t know if we should do this,” or whatever. Use to, I would give up
immediately when a girl said this; but now I know, as everyone else should
know, that this means “turn me on more, pleeeaaassseee.” I usually just roll
completely off the girl and say sarcastically, “Fine, let’s go to sleep.” Now,
a sarcastic voice tone is VERY important when doing this. Otherwise, it won’t
work. Then, when she tries to start kissing me again (she ALWAYS does), I use
the DYD trick and say, “I’ll only continue if you say please.” And respond to
what she says accordingly. You guys can DAFS for the rest of the details on
this technique.
Anyways, the approach; and the transition from kissing to sex were my two
biggest obstacles in becoming a PUA. Everyone has different things to work on,
but for me; I was unstoppable after I got these two skills down. Now I will
share some of the successes I’ve had along the way.
I actually ended up having sex with that girl that LJBFed me back when I was
14. All it took was me approaching different sets when we went out to a bar
together. She started getting REALLY jealous, and cock-blocked me several
times. I bitched the shit out of her sincerely, of which she responded by
pushing me up against the wall and making out with me. After that, I just went
on autopilot. We left the bar, went to her bedroom, and fucked.
That was actually a huge let-down. She wasn’t all that great in the sack, and
she fucking SNORED when we went to sleep. I was actually upset for about a week
afterwards. Having sex with this girl was something I wet dreamed about for
over seven years. So the next morning, I LJBFed HER. I just told her that the
night was a huge mistake, and that I didn’t want our friendship to change
because of the sex. So now she acts like I did for seven years…buying me stuff,
calling me all the time, and kissing my ass.
I also remember my first successful approach to f-close in the same night last
summer. That is a moment every r-AFC or PUA can look at as a huge step they
took in becoming a PUA. I used the who lies more opener on her, told the thong
story, and she instantly wanted me. The rest was too easy. Not much to brag
about, but it was important for me at the time.
I don’t do the # close game too often. I generally only get their number if
they have come to my place, and I have at least gotten to second base. If you
are a mass approach # close kind of guy, I recommend sending text messages
rather than calling. Chicks will give their # to just about anyone that asks.
Remember this. Most hot girls won’t answer their cell unless the number is
programmed in their phone, and they know that person. Honestly, hot girls don’t
have time to talk to every AFC guy they give their # out to. There’s a lot of
chick logic evolved in this. I’m more of an all or nothing kind of guy.
I really shouldn’t be giving advice on phone game. I know some PUAs are really
good at it, and that is their style. Which leads to another point…Do what works
for you. This post’s main purpose isn’t to teach techniques. The purpose is to
give hope to all the r-AFC’s out there. Transforming into a PUA can happen, and
it happens all the time. Don’t give up, and remember that it is all about
learning new skills.
Now that I have had many successes in the field, I feel I am now worthy of
posting on asf. You guys will here from me more, and I feel that I have a lot
to add to this community. I encourage other PUAs that have transformed from
AFCs to post in this thread on what obstacles they overcame, and how they
overcame them.
I’m out,
-AJ
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