mASF post by "Mr. Miyagi [NL]"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, August 8, 2004Hi PUA's,
This is gonna be my first posting here, so please go a bit easy on me (and also
on my English and lack of using proper acronyms) ;-)
[My background]
I'm 28 yrs old, consider myself to be a 7/8 in the looks department, I live in
Holland and just got out of a LTR 6 months ago. Since then I've been
reading/watching lotsa DYD and SS stuff. I don't know yet if (all) this stuff
works as good on Dutch chicks as it seems to work on American/British ones, but
I'm willing to try it out. I've also been lurking on this board for 2 months or
so.
My game up until now has been largely based on trying to pick up girls in
discotheques, most of the time at least partly using my relatively good dancing
skills/BL to at least get some initial AI's/IOI's.
In Holland, sarging in discotheques seems to be much easier than daytime
sarging, but I'm still trying to get into these as well... (Still working on my
daytime opening skills/fears/stories).
There's especially this 1 joint ('3M') in a city nearby (Hengelo) that seems to
be a very good place to lay women. There are a lot of really horny, easy to lay
30+ women there, but also some nice 20+ ones.(As I mostly sarge in there, I
have to try not to become known too much as a player to all the (regular)
customers there, so this limits my options a bit).
Ok, onto the reports then...
[FR 1: HB_DT_Soccer]
I ran into this one as I was dancing on a Saturday-nite in this discotheque
'3M' with a wing of mine (aka TopCat). I had been dancing quite a bit that
evening, just enjoying myself, doing my own thing and not trying too hard to
get attention from girls.
As there had been a soccer game, there were some ppl wearing orange clothing 'n
stuff. As I was dancing, I saw this HB_DT_Soccer girl (about a 7 or 8)on the
dance floor wearing an orange hat and scarf. As she did not strike me as a very
attractive girl at that time, I bluntly told her 'to lose these as she looked
ridiculous wearing them' and proceeded to take those from her. After that, I
moved a couple of meters on the dance floor, ignoring her, but she followed me
a bit and danced in front of me. I then grinded her lightly for a couple of
secs, she turned around, I gave her a quick tiny little kiss on her lips (been
using that kissing tactic a couple of times since then), then proceeded to
further ignore her. After the song was over, the joint closed, so I went up to
her and blatantly asked: "Do you wanna come home with me tonite?". She said
"yes", so we went outside. All this happened in a couple of minutes. As both
our mouths were very dry from drinking beer, I couldn't really tongue-kiss
close her at that time, so her BT went down a bit. So at a junction near her
home I got some LMR and I said to her: "You look like you want something from
me... I just want to kiss you, let's go to your house so you can get us some
water so we can kiss." Had to talk to her some more, built some rapport, did
some take-aways, then we went to her home. We had some great sex, I then asked
her if she could do deepthroating, she said 'yes', so I got my first ever DT
action after that too (Note: it never hurts to ask these things, guys!) She
also told me she liked how I danced, I was the first person she had a ONS with
and that she was actually going for a guy who she knew from work, so I've not
heard a lot from her since.
*) Bottom line: you don't necessarily need to do a lot of routines/talking to
FC a chick, just dancing a bit and doing some C&F (in this case partly caused
by *really* not having too much interest in her initially) really did seem to
do the trick here ;-)
[FR 2: HB_Hindu_Consultant]
The next Friday I went to another discotheque (I had never really scored there
before), bringing a good vibe with me due to my previous FC on Saturday with
HB_DT_Soccer. This nite I was also doing some dancing, ignoring chicks for the
most part, when suddenly this HB_Hindu_Consultant (about a 7 or 8, at least in
the face department) chick came to me and started dancing with me and almost
immediately dragged me off the dance floor and proceeded to kissing me. I tried
to do some take-aways and some fluff convo, but she really only wanted to kiss
and hold me... She told me she was almost leaving, so I asked her if I could
come with her. She asked: "What do you want to do?". I told her: "Whatever you
want me to do." (a bit AFC, probably). I lost her there eventually as she went
to dance with some GFs, but she had told me where she lived, so I went there
when the discotheque closed. After she let me in, she asked me if 'I had
brought something with me' and made it very clear that I was there for 1
purpose only: to fuck her. She told me that when she gets horny, she simply
just wants to get fucked. She also told me she only wanted to get fucked on the
kitchen floor. I told her I'd rather fuck her in bed, but she insisted. I asked
if she had a boyfriend as she didn't want to fuck in her bed, but she told me
it was not of my business ;-) So I fucked her on the kitchen floor, but it
wasn't too comfy there, so I made it a bit of a quicky. After we were done, she
told me I had to go immediately. I told her I thought *I* was a player (lol)!
BTW, we eventually found out that she was actually my appointed consultant at
the unemployment office and I had spoken with her 5 times before, but neither
of us had recognized each other initially in the discotheque ;-)
*) Bottom line: just some dancing along with bringing some good
confident/sexual vibes with me (as my dancing alone really wasn't THAT good),
got me this 2nd lay in one week. There are some horny chicks out there just
wanting to be fucked! Again, not exactly rocket science, but I probably
wouldn't have fucked her if I had been acting like an unconfident, complete
AFC. Hail to mASF!
[OR: HB_oldbutyounglooking]
The next Saturday I went to the '3M' discotheque again and was doing some
dancing there. As I was dancing, I noticed that some chick came to dance beside
me, as I was dancing on a platform w/some other ppl. I proceeded to ignore her
and to doing my own dance-stuff. When I saw her getting her phone, I asked her:
"Are you calling your parents to ask if you have to go home yet?". She then
answered that she actually was 37(!) and she was calling her babysitter to
check if everything was ok. She then told me some other stuff about herself,
without me having to ask her anything. She then told me she had to go home, as
the babysitter was getting tired. I knew she came there often, so I didn't push
for the #-close at that time. I've seen her a couple of times after that and
she always waves and smiles at me, but she dances a lot and I lose track of her
a lot and don't like going up to ppl when they're dancing, so I still have to
figure out how to 'accidentally' bump into her again and take it further.
*) Bottom line: Situational/spontaneous opening really seems to work for me. I
really thought this woman was much younger than 37, so my remark to her was
genuine, but also C&F on hindsight of course, and it worked reasonably well and
got her talking and opening up to me.
I find I'm still relying too much on chance, on my dancing/attitude/BL,
situational/spontaneous openers and girls coming to me as opposed to some more
active sarging on my part. I still have to figure out some ways to initiate
more contact with girls in this discotheque while still coming across as
someone that is not-needy, not a 'player' and is enjoying himself just dancing
and chilling. (Which I think IS seriously attracting some girls to me, but most
of the time, as a guy you still need to take the first 'real' step.)
[WRAPUP]
- Sometimes you don't have to do a lot of talking to FC, just dancing around a
bit, enjoying yourself, using some good BL and acting a bit indifferent can
work wonders.
- Also, when I'm reading some of the postings here, I'm sometimes wondering if
all the techniques some guys have employed for one FC were really necessary and
if they couldn't have just closed much faster just using their strong
BL/attitude. I'm mostly approaching only 7s or 8s, so I'm willing to believe
HB8+ girls might actually require some more work, esp. during daytime sarging
(at least here in Holland).
- Points for myself:
I still have to work more on learning daytime/street-sarging techniques (it
still feels a little unnatural for me to do these as opposed to approaches in
discotheques.)
I also have to perfect my game in discotheques. I have to maintain more EC
there and find ways to do more active sarging there without coming across as
too needy or without too aggressively grinding on women on the dance floor
(although that sometimes DOES work). I also do a lot of take-aways with the
girls who regularly visit these places, e.g. when I'm talking to her or she's
talking to me (most of the time I manage to keep convo off boring topics and
avoid asking her name or age, which I think is always a good thing) I will
quickly cut off the convo when we're on a high note, to demonstrate I'm not as
needy as some other AFC's in there. The problem is, that it often takes another
week or so before I 'accidentally' bump into her again. (I now have decided to
position myself on more strategic places -near the bathroom for example - so
this will happen more often.)
Peace out, respect to all contributors, hope this posting will be of some help,
Mr. Miyagi [NL]
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