mASF post by "gunwitch"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, October 10, 2002On 10/2/02 7:17:43 AM, spirit wrote:
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>> Whatever you do dont start doing
>this for rapport.
>
>I disagree - especially as it`s an easy
>part of pacing, and pacing helps
>build rapport and can be used in
>different, useful ways...
I don't do pacing, so?
>> Being opposite verbally or
>> at a topical level is negative.
>
>Re: opposite at a topical level: My
>experience is that this is one of those
>things that depends on context...
I just "me too" and if i have a thought on it say it back to her, they seem to
like it.
>> But to be disimilar to a woman in
>other ways is
>> called being a man. Something you
>want her to feel not think you are 100%.
>
>I couldn`t care less if she thinks or
>feels I`m a `man` - I want her to
>think/feel ATTRACTED to me and SEXUAL
>about me... the rest of `the man`
>stuff falls into place from there.
Women are generally attracted to men.
>> Mimiking her ways of speech,
>feminine traits, irrational emotional
>states
>> (crying over bullshit), and overall
>"ways" is no good.
>
>I agree about total mimicking but
>matching and pacing her style at that
>moment is good as is leading her
>thoughts & feelings somewhere else a
>moment
>later...
A quick state match can be good for rapport right at the start, but going any
further is to much analysis and isnt aggressive or straight forward enough for
my tastes.
>> Women say "i hate how men cant
>communicate", " i hate how all men care
>about
>> is sex", "i hate when men act
>macho", yet their boyfreinds cant
>comunicate, act
>> macho and want to fuck her all the
>time,
>Yeah... but then they dump their BF
>for someone better as soon as I come
>along...
You arent "better" because you are more what they say they want. You, be you
personallity wise except with a 3 inch penis and only the ability to fuck for 5
minuites, and youll only do that once a week, then we'll see whos "better" to a
girl youve worked your mojo on, you the way you are or just about any guy who
could satisfy her in the sack? "Better" to me means a whole package filled,
ranked in order of importance to her real desires, not ONE societal condition
for a "good boyfriend". LAST in importance fom what ive found with women, upon
meeing you is ability to communicate as they know if THEY open up after sex and
into LTR ANY guy can communicate well, yet its FIRST out of their mouth when
asked.
>Plus, wanting to fuck her all
>the time isn`t the same thing as
>getting to fuck her all the time...
Then he goes and gets something else, you seem to suggest that masculine guys
or guys who cant communicate are lonely or something. Thats not really the
arguement here, i dont care if you are PUA, AFC, masculine, feminine or what,
thats a personal treatment descision. ME? An LTR "has a headache" ONCE i wal
out the door, with her full knowledge that its because she isnt atracted to me
anymore, isn't interestedin sharing sexual gratification and so im going to go
find someone who is right then.
>> and these women dont turn gay?
>
>Is that more to do with social
>conditioning or simply that most of them
>meet
>the same uncommunicative, macho, sex
>hungry men all the time and so think
>that`s what all men are like and
>therefore settle for that?
I think feminism and culture tell them to SAY they settle for that, when in
truth they like it, else they wouldnt like me i guess.
>> SOOOO I
>> act accordingly and bag my share of
>the tail.
>
>Probably the girls with lame BFs...
>
>Spirit
>
Why get rude? I didnt attack you. Besides that if they are really trying to
escape the "lameness" of guys like me, why would they be fucking me? Wouldnt
they go find a don juan styled, sensitive communicator of a guy? Or even an AFC
who let her call all the shots?
Hey, you're mr don juan, connection based guy, i can go the same route, then i
get 1 in 4 rather than 9 in 10 with a sexually aggressive macho style, if i
remember correct you do as well with don juan syled methods.
I thought we kinda agreed that wed always disagree based on that? You and I
both KNOW what works for us, id say just post our own suggestions and then let
others decide whats gonna help THEM in their style, rather than argue about 2
points that are right, but quite different.
None the less, as ive said theres only really these 2 styles that are gonna
get you anywhere so PICK ONE, experiment for which is best for you (do mine
first as its quicker to learn) or combine the two if you can.
I wont argue Spirits posts about PU cause i used to get 1 in 4 with similar
methods so im sure some people could get 9 of 10 or even better with it. I dont
think my posts were any different from Spirits 2 years ago, couldve matched em
up to the letter. Bascially though i can say that ive tried just about every
other method and gotten 1 in 20 results, RECENTLY now that i can apply just
about anything well, probably 1 in 50 if you are in first year and using those
methods.
I say try mine, it doesnt work or you hit a sticking point of 1 in 5 women or
such? Then you learn to theme/pattern on the fly well and gain rapport through
mental tactics and try that, that also gets you a sticking point, tweak the 2
into combos. That fails get the tumor cut off your face an stop PUing celebrity
women as any non-mutant can do at least 1 in 3 if he gets his shit together.
"make the ho say no"
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