mASF post by "-Sailor Boy-"
posted on: USENet: alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, October 10, 1999bottom line i think is
Do whatever you FEEL like doing! It you feel its right DO IT! if not, let
her know!
i think this comes down to the giver/taker in all relationships. Dont let
yourself fall into the giver category, it should be 50-50
Big Guy wrote:
> Maybe this is obvious and I'm just not seeing it... but is it
> supplication when...
>
> You open the door for her?
>
> Push her seat in for her as she sits down?
>
> Light a cigarette/cigar for her (asked or unasked)?
>
> Pick a flower and give it to her (or place it in her hair) while
> walking in a park?
>
> Buy a flower from a street vendor and do the same?
>
> Lending her your jacket if she is cold?
>
> These are things that I enjoy doing. But, I'm not sure if I am
> expecting any reward for doing them. . I suppose given the
> circumstance, it could be seen as supplicating.
>
>
> Buying something for her kid/s?
>
> Doing her a favor?
>
> Doing her a favor when she has no one else to turn to?
>
> I'm sure there are a ton more what ifs....
>
> IMHO, it all depends on the situation/setting, attitude of the HB and
> the attitude of the PUA/AFC.
>
> If the HB is requesting drinks/favors/etc for the purpose of using the
> guy, then yes, anyone who allows himself to be used (read: walked on)
> like this is definately in a supplcating position. But if the HB is
> genuinely in need (for example:needs a flat tire changed on a busy
> street); is a PUA really going to take the position of "I'm not going
> to "reward" you until there is gain in it for me. Of course not. I
> would like to think that a PUA will be altrusitic and generously offer
> his services... and of course use this as an opportunity for a PU.
> Now... if you take the same situation and put in in a different
> setting.... her car has been parked in the driveway for a week with a
> flat and she asks you to change it for her... then its back to she's
> trying to get you to supplicate to her. Situations and attitudes.
>
> IOW, if she expects and receives something from you at no cost to her,
> its supplication.
>
> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:11:06 -0700, Sukinan <roo***t@sp***.org[ ? ]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >It's supplication if you do it because you think it will get you some
> >where or for some reason other than as a reward for something positive.
> >
> >It's NOT supplication if you frame it as a reward AND do it BECAUSE YOU
> >WANT TO. Not because she asked you or you felt obligated.
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Scot Skinner wrote:
> >
> >> So you are out at a bar and a woman buys you a drink, if you return
> >> the favor, in other words you buy her a drink, is that supplication? I
> >> know you guys have the answer for this.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >========
> >Ken I
> >========
> >
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