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mASF post by "undacovalova"
posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, July 7, 2005

Intime as you were talking about sharing insecurities I will share mine from my
own life. Although it is not really PU related, it does also have consequences
on PU for me.

I’ve have a slight stammer or (stutter in US) since I was 10 (I’m 26 now). I’m
not asking for sympathy because I’m past that but it would be great if you guys
could get some understanding from my story and how I deal with it and perhaps
help with the question I’ll ask at the end. I would also love to hear from any
other boys who have/are going through similar. I’m what is know as a covert
stammerer who has a stammer but also some fluency but an overt stammerer has no
fluency at all. An overt is easily recognisable as when you talk to he or she
you will hear the stammer: Hhhhow aaaaarrre you? For example. A covert like I
said has some fluency and can easily have a conversation with people using word
avoidence techniques and pauses to hide the stammer but still has a lot of
mental issues going on.

Now with me, I got into the game about 7 months ago determined to start sorting
women and my speech out this year. I attended intense speech therapy where
there taught us a completely different way of speaking using costal
breathing…it really slows your speech and makes you sound more confident. This
type of therapy was great for overt stammerers who were never able to talk
before but now are able to talk for the first time in there lifes. For them it
made a big impact and incidently it was very moving watching guys and girls
being able to speak at the end of the 3 days. For a covert stammerer like me it
did not help. I found the whole breathing hard and it took a lot of effort, and
I also knew that I could have conversations with people using my hiding tricks
so why would I need it? You see I still didn’t accept the stammer (and probably
still don’t although things are better as I discuss below) because you really
have to tell everyone in public that look I have a stammer and I will be using
a breathing technique for you to be able to practice and for it to work.

Now along with addressing my speech I got into the game, going out and doing
approaches with great support from Stevie PUA here in England. I now can go up
to any woman either lone wolves (or in groups) who interest me in shopping
centres or bars and start conversations, most times :-) At this moment I
working on attraction techniques so things like Swinggcat and TD/Mystery
routines and stories and can get some good attraction going. I’ve also been
working a lot on BL, eye contact, smiling etc.

Going back to my speech there are few things that I have been using to help.
I’m using in particular affirmations, reframing, mental visualisations and Ross
Jeffries UC tapes which have helped a lot. I’m not that bothered about my
stammer that much anymore (well not as much as before) and when I approach
women I do not stammer because I use my hiding techniques and only using
certain words. If I do stammer in front of them then I don’t really care that
much because of my positive reframing of things as of late.

But one question I want to ask others is that I know deep down that I’m still
not being true to myself and to others I guess and therefore should I tell
chicks when approaching them that I have a stammer? I’ve hidden it for so many
years ashamed that people will think I’m think thick etc although I’m able to
tell new colleagues at university and before giving presentations, but just
not chicks. I know there are some who say that one should embrace both their
strengths and weaknesses. I’d be interested in people’s opinions.

Cheers,

ucl.