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mASF post by "Jestor"
posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, July 7, 2005

On 7/19/05 7:59:00 AM, zarathustra_fi wrote:
>On 7/17/05 2:46:00 PM, Jestor wrote:
>
>Jestor,
>very good post! I have a question for
>you. You sarge in Toronto and are
>obviously seeing lot of very "Secret
>Society" ladies. Due to the HUGE
>progress you have done I take the
>freedom of asking a few questions I
>would be very interested in hearing your
>opinion about.
>
>If you should give an opinion about the
>strength of their sexual drive would you
>consider them:
>
>- LDs and having sex randomly and rarely
>only with the rare guys/players who are
>very Alpha and need them less while
>performing their 101 on them.
>- HDs and so having sex with LOT of guys
>randomly to be able to stand the
>necessary delay to perform their 101
>without having to face longer sexual
>starvation.

I would say there is a high number of frustrated HD women, especially the women
in late 20s and 30s. I do not think these women are having sex with a lot of
guys, just because of the way they use their 101 and the extent of it (and the
few men who can pass their tests). The problem is that there are so many beta
men offering these women the world that their first offense is to test the man
STRINGINTLY before giving him any sex. Many of these women can go for MONTHS
without sex just because they haven't met the right guy yet. Some are LD but
many I think are just very frustrated HD. But despite this they still screen
HARD. It is part of the culture of wanting the "very best".

I have to really monitor my behavior with these women. I ESPECIALLY have to
keep my value high in between dates. I have found that I can dominate and
attract during the date but if I try to set up another date afterwards too
soon, they react very negatively by withdrawing (esp. true for Secret
Society/jaded women). There is a HUGE mismatch between a HOT DATE and planning
too soon for another one, in terms of passion and sexual chemistry/tension. So
this is why I say you need to disappear after the HOT DATE and make them wait a
while before another one. The exception to this is if they take the initiative
FIRST, usually...but I'm still not totally clear on the dynamics of this
(yet)...as there are some women who will take this opportunity to cock-tease
and make you work even harder (psychos).

>And evaluating self-esteem how many of
>them are LSE and how many HSE in your
>opinion? Also do you believe that being

I would say it's about 60/40 LSE/HSE...but I'm totally guessing here

>very HSE and being sexually promiscous
>can cohesist in the same person?

Yes, especially if they are recently divorced and have been with an AFC for
many years.

>Which one of the two groups is more
>represented in your opinion between the
>women you sarge there?

It depends on the age range. With women in their late 20s and 30s an image of
HSE (independence, knowing what you want) is more represented. But with the
younger girls, LSE is more represented (relying on friends' opinions on men,
wanting to be wined and dined to fit in with the culture).

>There are also very RARE HD HSE chicks
>who - while being able to be very HD in
>a relationship with the right guy - are
>also able to control/sublimate their
>sexual desire for longer time if the
>right guy is not available for a reason
>or another ( my actual wife is one of
>them ). For example they can take very
>long periods of "dating" without going
>into casual sex, until they find what
>they want.

Yes, I think there's quite a few of these women here too. But that's part of
the culture of wanting the best, at the expense of sexual frustration.

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