mASF post by "ankh-f-n-khonsu"
posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, July 7, 2005On 7/17/05 2:46:00 PM, Jestor wrote:
>You: "Let's hang out at
>my/your place"
>Her: "No"
>You: "Cool, so how about
>hanging out at my/your place"
>Her: blah blah, basically a no
>You: rub her ass and say
>"Nothing will happen"
I'd like to see the context within which this is happening.
the thing with persistence is, if you slow the hell down with your approaches,
and just act with congruence, it gives her more time to "get you" and adjust to
your frame.
as soon as you disrespect that process of her objecting and you move forward
too rapidly, that is her getting bitten by you, and she will continue on twice
shy.
if you bite, it evokes some old negative patterns in her.
but before you rub her ass, you sound like you are caring too much about what
she decides.
you need to be more assertive about what it is you want from her and how you
want it. if you slow it down, it allows her to adjust more smoothly to your
frame and what you genuinely want from her.
of course it gives her something to struggle against, but it's more attractive
and buys you time until she can slip into your frame.
I see telling her "nothing will happen" as you just highlighting some division
between what you want and what she wants.
If she didn't want 'something to happen', you wouldn't be wasting your time.
only in jest would i suggest that she wouldn't want something like that to
happen.
If you provide integrity to lead with, on all levels, and just progress with
her step by step, without asking for a decision from her or for her to initiate
anything, but you merely ALLOW her room to make decisions, then it will be in
her nature to get swept up in your desires and to assume a similar frame.
>Secret Society women are
>basically attractive women who
>date a lot (and/or get a lot
>of offers). They are jaded by
>AFCs and generally view men as
>needy until proven otherwise.
>These women look out for
>themselves and only respond to
>men who are like-minded. They
>are very intolerant of
>mistakes; just like people who
>are jaded with movies, and are
>very hard to please at the
>cinema.
This is great stuff!
>Secret Society women (even
>those attached) regularly
>structure opportunities for
>casual sex by putting
>themselves in the heart of
>situations where players can
>fuck them.
If you're a secret society women reading this, i can give you a technique for
this.
I go running a lot, sometimes on grass ovals, and this what i get..
the woman will taking her dog for a walk. It's usually a dog that likes to get
lose and go running up to other people: the dog is sorta like something she
feels she has little control of, so it's usually on a leash. This is her
opportunity to get out and look around.
While she is out, she wants a closer look at me, so she walks her dog the other
direction to where im running around to coinside with when im running along
near a walkway (on the other side of the little fence, to where she is walking
her dog along.)
she leaves the scene with dog.
10-15 mins later she is walking back the other direction.
She decides to let her dog run free.
She coincides the getting to the edge of the middle of the oval (like halfway
along the oval between the walkway next to the oval and the opposite side) with
my pace.
she lets her dog off of the leash when im about 1/4 the way towards her.
she slowly walks towards the dog that is bounding around over the place (to
coincide with my getting to that side of the oval)
(I'm running round the inner edge.)
so that just as she enters the oval grounds and starts walking i have to run
round her, or she has to stop to wait for me to pass.
then she will slowly stroll along the middle of the oval.
hoping that her dog will start following me some, so she can check me out
properly.
then she will coincide her reaching the other side of the oval with my reaching
that side, so that this time we actually miss crossing paths (so it doesn't
look deliberate), but so that she crosses before me and gives me a good
opportunity to check her out properly.
This might be me deseminating this from my own arogant perspective, but I kid
you not, that is the same pattern i recognize a lot when i go running.
it's not always exactly like that. the pattern does vary more or less, but
let's uassume that what i just wrote is for secret society females.
But, if you're a guy and you wanna try this, i urge you to get a smallish dog
but with a very ferocious bark, on a leash.
They put up token
>resistance, to shift conscious
>responsibility away from
>themselves, but deep down they
>know it's only a matter of
>time before "it just
>happened".
>
>With these women you need
>absolutely no fear of loss.
>Women who are recent
>immigrants, and/or have little
>experience dating, and aren't
>(yet) brainwashed by feminist,
>anti-provider stigma, are the
>ones with whom you can afford
>to be "nicer", more
>"considerate", and less
>dominant.
>
>I recognize these women by the
>fact that they use very little
>101 on me, shit test little,
>and are visibly enthusiastic
>about being with me.
>
>To recognize Secret Society
>women on dates pay attention
>especially to how she ends the
>interaction. Does she end the
>date early when it comes time
>to go to the next level, even
>when she is clearly attracted?
>Is she withdrawing, telling
>you she has to go meet a
>friend or whatever? With
>these women you need harsher
>treatment. More dominance,
>more 101, more impudence.
>These are the hoes whom you
>want to get the NO out of.
>
>Dominate, show impudence,
>connect, build rapport, flirt,
>make the ho say no (sometimes
>yes), then say goodbye. And
>then FORGET ABOUT HER. This
>is solid game for the
>attractive, jaded women who
>want the very best. You will
>give them the "worst" and will
>succeed that way.
>
>Positive reframe: This is the
>heart of the Zen Philosophy.
>
>So now that the date is over
>and you made her say no, you
>will part ways with a "We'll
>keep in touch", or "Let's
>catch up another time" or
>similar variations. Then kiss
>her passionately, walk away,
>and don't look back. Don't
>contact her for 3-5 weeks
>(rough estimate). You can
>send SMS or whatever small 101
>technique (to touch base, not
>to set up a date), but it's
>not essential. This is what
>keeps the passion alive. If
>you try to set up another date
>even a few days after the last
>date you run the serious risk
>of turning her off. Where's
>the passion she asks herself?
>Now I'm turned off. One woman
>actually told me she likes it
>when she doesn't know what the
>guy is going to do next.
>
>If she contacts you first and
>suggests another meet then
>accept it. The iron is hot,
>and she likely wants to fuck.
>Otherwise, make her wait (esp.
>if she didn't fuck you on the
>last date). The point is, get
>around to seeing her again,
>don't plan to see her again.
>That IS solid game.
>
>And don't worry about her
>nexting you because you made
>her wait. Very few women (the
>truly feminine ones) have the
>inner strength to resist a guy
>who is totally there one
>instance and then gone
>indefinitely the next. Also,
>by doing it this way you are
>subcommunicating a very
>important thing, you are
>fucking other women and are in
>no hurry to get around to
>doing her.
This is all great stuff!
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