mASF post by "OceanEyes" posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, July 7, 2005
Bwahahahahaha!
Dude, my phd cost me my marriage to my
psycho LSE agoraphobic bulemic anxiety-
attacked ex-wife who had a thyroid
problem in addition to a major physiological
illness (I won't say what, it would
destroy my anonymity) that legally
barred her from having a driver's license.
She left to "find herself." Did me a
favor in the end.
PHD Took me 6 years AFTER my MS, and I had to
work two years of that full time elsewhere.
I spend roughly two hours a day either
going out in the field, reading material
from here, reading material from elsewhere,
talking to friends about their situations with
women, etc. Some of the posts I write,
such as this one, are at least as much for
my benefit as anyone else's. It gives me
the opportunity to reflect on my experience,
writing it out tends to clarify things for
me in my mind.
(In addition to this, I am starting to take
control of "minding my own business" by
developing financial intelligence as well
as social and sexual intelligance.)
Since I was raised to be exactly what women
who are my peers are not attracted to, I have
a lot of catching up to do.
As a result, I am a far happier person now
than last year, back when women were
impenetrable to me.
My game plan is to learn how to find the
line between self-limiting beliefs and
delusional beliefs, then walk that line
knowing exactly what I want and when I
want it. This I think is the hardest part.
Obviously, neither of us has the social
skills to pull, say, Angelina Jolie, but
we could develop the skills to pull a girl
that is as sexy within a couple of years,
maybe a LOT faster. Angelina will have to
wait a few more years after that.
The key for YOU to remember is that women
are EMOTIONALLY moral. They are NOT
intellectually or logically moral outside
a very strict rule frame (male dominated
churches, say). If your faith is founded on a
more literal interpration of scripture
(e.g., lutheran missouri
synod, 4-square), you probably should not even be
reading ASF. If you are mainline/oldline
protestent (i.e., episcopal, ecla, etc),
THOSE WOMEN ARE TD SECRET SOCIETY AND YOU
ARE DOOMED IF YOU DO NOT REALIZE THIS.
Think about it: you are a nice guy, well-educated,
did everything right, but still not getting
any action from the women who should be
judging you according to your obvious merits.
A simple test: Do the women in your
congregation dress modestly in an
absolute sense? If not, treat them
as secret society. And reflect on why
the S. Baptist, Methodists, etc. preach so
much about sex. It's what's on everyone's
mind, all the time.
Back to the phd... part of why the phd experience
sucks is that is an incredibly betaizing
experience for most people. Everyone has
heard stories about Joe Brilliant who pissed
off Prof Numbskull and was drummed out in shame.
You have to get those signatures, otherwise
it's all in vain. Then you have to remain
beta to ensure you get references. In my case,
my failure to swear a fealty oath to a prof
after I graduated probably cost me job interviews
at good schools. Can't prove anything, but he
is powerful in that field, and is a blatant
empire builder of the kind that would
prefer to rule over 100% of nothing than to
share any smaller percent of anything.
Some points:
1. You finished your phd. You do not
need to ever live in that mindset again,
because indentured servitude is only
legal in graduate schools.
2. You are free to go as fast or slow as
you want with respect to your goals with women.
No one cares but you. There is no one with
any power to deny you your goals except
yourself. You do not need anyone's
signature or permission to succeed with women.
3. Do not approach social intelligence with
the same mindset as you approached getting
your phd. Getting a phd is problem solving:
Take classes, get committee, write dissertation,
defend, get signature. Relations with women
are a process to be enjoyed, not a problem
to be solved. The moment you say "I have
learned enough" and stop is the moment the
women in your life take control. Then you
will nagged, sex will be rationed, and
possibly, you will be cuckolded. The higher
quality the woman, the faster this will
happen. Just look around at all the
married couples you know. Think of it
as a business, your business, where if
you don't stay on top of it, you are
out of business.
Don't think I like this state of affairs.
I personally do not, because I invested
27 years of my life in an old-fashioned
frame with respect to women. I am very,
very good at that, which is probably
why my ability to deal with women under
the age of 63 (youngest of the previous
generation) massively sucks. Women of the
previous generation adore me, their daughters who
I try to date hate this. This includes
my current LTR, who just ripped up a
letter from her mom, who attempted to
explain to her how to keep me now
that she caught me. In many respects,
it's totally a one way street. We as men
must learn "chick," while women are no
longer under any compunction to learn
"dude." My current LTR has no clue about
how guys really act, the onus is totally
on me to understand all aspects of communication
in the relationship. This may seem
counter-intuitive, but women these days
*expect* as well as demand fidelity in
relationships, whereas I think the previous
generation demanded it, but did not
really expect it, men being men and all.
Another thing to reflect on is how
modern women expect romance on demand,
yet reserve sexual favors. That is,
they treat romance as a RIGHT, but
sexual favors are granted as a PRIVILEGE.
This is a horrible imbalance of affairs,
because romance is costly for men. It
interferes with our business, and takes
time away from fucking other women. I could
write a whole post about that.
Hold the course bro, don't get discouraged,
get laid!
What's a few years at your age anyway?
-OE
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OE's First Law: Any sufficiently long thread on mASF devolves into a flame war
about SS.
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