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mASF post by "zarathustra_fi" posted on: alt.seduction.relationships, June 6, 2005On 6/18/05 12:06:00 AM, OceanEyes wrote:
>Franco went further, saying you have >to put her to work essentially as the >bottom in a 3way.
Actually the 3some frame does not need to be in any case really be put in
practice. It can be used also simply on the mental level as a GHOST to get her
to do what the guy wants and especially to force her to DISPLAY HER CARDS (
beware: there are chicks who are so COLD BLOODED AND EXPERIENCED MINDFUCKERS
THAT YOU WILL NEED TO USE THIS ON THE LONGER TERM WITH THE SMART ATTITUDE OF A
MACHIAVELLI TO HAVE THEM DISPLAY THEIR CARDS AT THE END!) The most powerful
effect of it is to totally reframe "Secret Society" ladies who are giving the
"Mixed frame" = I am in a traditional relationship while being free and doing
everything I want which actually is a FRAUD because with that she takes all the
pleasures and at the same time succeeds in OWNING the PROVIDER/HUSBAND DICK
completely.
Secret Society mixed frame is the equivalent of what macho guys do when they
keep the wife under slavery conditions and fuck around with young ladies done
on men.
When properly used the 3some frame gives the message: "if you try to be smart
with me then I am gonna fuck everything that moves right now and even invite
you to watch"
Inviting her FIRST to a MMF 3some is ever more effective because the more she
is the Secret Society type the more she will feel at first "Wow! This is a
really free minded guy" and soon after find herself suffering of the same
jealousy and unsureness she gives to AFC with her Secret Society bullshit when
he will want a 3some with a FFM setting..Instead a woman who is not so much Secret Society will react like:"I don't want to cheat on you.. I feel I want to
be only with you" and then the guy can withdraw the 3some thing but get it back
as a test if she starts again with Secret Society bullshit.
By agreeing to the 3some with her provider she is actually giving him the
permission to fuck around officially or if SHE DOES NOT WANT HIM TO FUCK AROUND
THEN SHE WILL HAVE TO ASK FOR SOME RESTRICTIONS LIKE:
- "I don't want at all any other people sexually in our relationship ( she has
to get back to non Secret Society committed relationship here)
- "It is okay but NO OTHER sexual relationships when we are not together."
- "Okay let's fuck around freely and not restriction" (this last one has her to
get the risk of losing her Provider to to other women.)
Now at this point she has either to make of him the PRIZE by admitting that he
is SPECIAL to her or she has to discover her cards and admit that she does not
give a shit is she being fucked by him or King Kong. In a word for the guy a
win-win situation in any case and now wastes of guy's own time.
FROM THERE if the guy has PUA skills he can even CALIBRATE at which extent he
wants her to make of himself THE PRIZE. If he wants to be in a more committed LTR he can simply talk about the 3some and then put her in front of it as a
GHOST any time she gives bullshit.
If she gives him more Secret Society bullshit he escalates with more plans for
3somes and orgies..
This is especially effective if the guy is in Provider/Husband role and has PUA
skills because generally she will obey a strong instinct of KEEPING HER
PROVIDER to avoid the competition with other women.
Of course some very smart women can lie and pretend to want it or pretend to be
shocked by it but if the guy has PUA skills he can easily calibrate and reframe
this, too. This 3some thing cannot be used successfully by guys who do not have
good PUA and seduction skills.
Franco http://www.franco-seduction.com
Online Seduction School for Single Men, Husbands & Players
"Sarge Est Necesse, Vivere Necesse Non Est " Gnaeus Pompeius, revised
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