mASF post by "Cools"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, November 11, 2002Hi Giovanni,
I am barely a RAFC but I felt compelled to answer your question because i
felt we have the same problems holding us back and i think i am at least a
step ahead of you towards kicking it out....
<giovanni> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Hi Style,
>
> I have been reading the materials(but never fully). I have so many
different
> kinds of seduction stuffs. Really, I am just piling them up.
>
Before ASF, I used to read whatever bookstore material was available about
women, seduction, psychology blah blah. I even jot down notes and PLANNED
to use them in THE FUTURE. One time, i got tired of all the books and not
being able to do anything with the knowledge i was absorbing and threw ALL
of them away. Seriously. Then i started collecting them
again......HAHAHAHA!
> I have never cold approached and closed although I have know about
seduction
> for 2 years now(too long).
>
This sucks. Even before ASF, i made approaches. And i was a clueless AFC
who buys women drinks and had nothing to say. Seriously man, i don't know
how you can get good at seduction unless you approach. Even the AFC
seduction books (except the Outfoxing one i guess) tell you to approach. I
think Style has made a good point of this over and over in this SP-Inner
threads.
> The thing is I am trying to learn this stuff so that I can make the
perfect
> pickup.
>
Dude, this is delusional. But then Style just said we're all delusional.
So rock on! HAHA!
> Probably this leads to the obvious conclusion that I am afraid, yes I
am...fear
> of the unknown.
>
> I lack organizational skills, thats why I don't have a plan either.
>
Yes, i feel for you bro! HAHAHA! Gad, i still am afraid and i still lack
organization! The thing is to NOT let it stop you from acting. Guys like
us (i'm assuming this from your post), dude, we are inclined to think more
and act less. We want nothing to go wrong. For some reason, we want to be
perfect and knowing and flawless and impress everyone every move we do.
This is why WRITING NOTES AND JOURNALS AND MAKING PLANS is useless for us.
That is just more thinking. What we need to do is ACT MORE AND THINK LESS.
All the JOURNALS and NOTES, etc that's good for people who act without
thinking because it keeps them in line. For us who think too much, it's a
disease.
> I would love to hear anyone who can tell me how they plan to succeed in
the
> quest for becoming a PUA.
>
> This would give me a good idea how to go about my own plan, also PUA's
here can
> tell u if there is any improvement in your plan to be made.
>
When i first found this material, i was blown away. All i did was read and
test-run the material on my then-gf and my fling. I used to think to
myself, when i lose these two, i will know what to do to get more. That
was my original PLAN. So i lost the two and because i didn't approach and
did not get to practice on a variety of women, i did not know what to do to
get more. Actually, i knew what to do in my head. In my head, i was a
PUA. In my head, I hear NYC and Svengali talking to me. But out in the
field, i just got scared and stalled.
After that, i thought i should get organized and made all sorts of plans
(revising it over and over) ala Maniac's but all it did was give me an
ILLUSION that i was actually moving towards my PUA aspirations when in fact
it was merely a way of delaying the inevitable --- that i will have to get
out in the field and approach strangers in my naked AFCness and start
learning from there.
When i started actually approaching, i carried a cheat sheet (it's SO HARD
not to plan, right?) but i rarely used more than two or three of what i had
in there everytime. So now when i approach, i just use dumb AFC openers or
whatever comes to mind. I don't care. I run a routine if i remember it on
the spot. Otherwise, i fluff and tell whatever comes to mind. I'm hoping
that this, along with a conscious regular adjustment of my attitudes,
behaviors, and responses WILL take me further and show me the next way.
Like i told you, from my experience, for GUYS LIKE US who have this GRAND
DELUSION of perfection in ourselves, the only way to handle this is TO STOP
WRITING NOTES AND JOURNALS AND MAKING PLANS and START ACTING MORE WITH WHAT
LITTLE SKILLS WE GOT.
I don't know if this is the answer you're looking for or what you hope to
find, but i hope this helps somehow.
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PS. When i first found ASF, i thought this was my ticket to getting laid
like a goddamn moviestar. Instead, all i've fucked is one chick in the last
six months. I've had times in my AFC days when i've had more. All this
non-supplication, don't-shit-where-you-eat, GFTOW,
call-bullshit-when-bullshit-is-tried can really set you back somehow but i'm
sticking with it because i feel like it is all for the better in the long
run.
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Noel
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