mASF post by "Tony Jones"
posted on: USENet: alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, September 9, 2002ero***7@ao***.com[ ? ] (ErosLA77) wrote in message news:<200***3@mb***.com[ ? ]>...
> >Subject: NEW TIMES LA ARTICLE SAYS THAT ROSS AND HIS GANG COULDN'T GET
> >ONE PHONE NUMBER.
> >From: knm***a@ms***.com[ ? ] (Tony Jones)
> >Date: Thu, Sep 5, 2002 1:27 PM
> >Message-id: <33b***c@po***.com[ ? ]>
> >
> >Yup, i was reading this captivating article the other day,
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> No doubt you were moving your lips as you read along, little Tony.
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> and it just
> >had me thinking. It said that after all the sarging that Ross and his
> >gang did that they couldn't even # CLOSE ONE GIRL.(if you think i'm
> >bullshitting search for it on the internet).
>
>
> Hmmm...tell you what. YOU try picking up a woman while simultaneously giving
> an interview to a reporter who is standing a foot away, watching everything and
> scribbling notes. Tends to break rapport.
>
> Guys who read this ng as well as Jay's restricted site have seen me in the
> field do very well, and if you want to pay me $1000, I'll even take YOU sarging
> and show you how it is done, IF you can get a written note from your Mom saying
> you can stay out past 10PM on a school-nite little Tony.
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> <.Also when interrogated about
> >him putting women under hypnotic trances, he says all he really means
> >is just to appeal to some deep emotional structure or state.do you
> >guys feel cheated? Now Ross, lets see you weasel out of this one?
>
>
> What you don't get, my chaw-chewing little piece of in-bred trailer-trash is
> that trance and access to deep emotional/imaginative states ARE THE SAME THING.
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> What do you think a woman does when she day-dreams about the guy she has a
> crush on, or even a fantasy guy she hopes one day to meet? Of course, the only
> "far-away" look YOU'VE ever seen in a woman's eyes is that look of hope that
> the cops will soon arrive to put a stop to your feats of public-exposure and
> self-pleasuring.
>
> No, little Tony, the basic processes by where we grow attracted, connected
> etc are fundamentally "trances".
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> >Because i can provide you with many more examples that makes you look
> >like a complete fraud.i'm just tired of wasting typing on you.I wonder
> >why my success with speed seduction was so terribly hit and miss.
>
> 1. You need to take a shower. BASIC HYGIENE IS A MUST.
>
> 2. You are too stupid to get what I am actually talking about.
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> i
> >basically have the odds of dating all over again.i think all that
> >speed seduction» provides is some kind of confidence, that makes you
> >think that you can get laid like a rock star,but its just you having
> >product knowledge that boosts up your ego,to make you look a little
> >more desirable to women.basically my friends i personally think its
> >just placebo effect.
>
> That's nice. And the big airpwane weally fwies because you bewieve it will.
>
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> If you can't and don't get that language guides consciousness and can
> influence emotion and imagination then I guess you really are retarded.
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> Get Laid NOW!
> Ask me how!
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> www.seduction.com»
http://www.newtimesla.com/issues/2000-01-06/feature.html/1/index.html
So Jeffries goes for broke and asks for her number, but she turns him
down flat. "I'm sorry, I don't give out my number. But I'll take your
card if you have one," she says.
He agrees, pulling out a card.
((Damn Ross, you fell for the oldest trick in the book.))((OH YEAH, I
THOUGHT WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO SUPPLICATE WHAT ARE YOU DOING "ASKING"
FOR A PHONE NUMBER,YOU PITIFUL BEGGAR)).((HOW THE HELL ARE WE SUPPOSED
TO FOLLOW YOUR "RULES", WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN FOLLOW THEM
YOURSELF)).((YOU FRAUD, YOU CHARLATAN, YOU LIAR)).
If the press loves to ridicule him, however, Jeffries has only himself
to blame. His materials make outrageous claims: that any man,
regardless of appearance or previous facility with women, can go up to
the most attractive, intelligent woman and in 30 minutes or less lay
such a powerful mojo on her using sexually ambiguous language that
she'll suddenly become a wanton, lascivious creature almost begging to
be bedded.
"It is hyperbole," Jeffries admits. In his seminars, he gives his
recruits more modest goals. He tells them his methods will instill in
them the confidence to approach women they'd never have had the
temerity to accost before. And with the clever use of stories and
banter (which Jeffries provides), some percentage of the women they
meet will accept their offers of a follow-up conversation. Two or
three more meetings and more hypnotic suggestions, and some women will
become willing sex partners.
It's not typical, but it happens," he says.
((Damn Ross this is supposed to be "SPEED seduction»", why the hell is
it taking so long?)) ((Shoot i might as well date again)). ((The funny
thing about it is that you admit that your a liar. "hyperbole")).((Why
do you exaggerate your claims?, why are you trying to deceive
us?))((Do you have any ethics my elderly friend?))
Reciting various patterns for a reporter, however, the Speed Seduction
guru and several of his students sounded ridiculous. Not only were the
patterns themselves goofy, but the men adopted a strange, cadenced
tonality that made them sound like automobile salesmen trying to get
you to add mag wheels and pinstriping.
((ha ha!!! :)))
This afternoon,Pelone and his brothers don't seem to be getting too
far.After four hours, they didn't have a single phone number to show
for it.
(( Like I said for all that sarging, thats some mighty piss poor
performance.))
(( Hey even i can get a phone number in less than 4 hours.))
Was Jeffries a fraud?
((Damn right he is!))
But are they really hypnotizing them? It seems doubtful. Even Jeffries
himself, when pressed on the matter, admitted that by "hypnotizing"
women he really meant he was "appealing to a deep emotional state."
Jeffries was giving unassertive guys the confidence to approach
attractive women in public places and chat them up in creative (if
often ridiculous) ways. For some guys, that ability is worth every
penny of an $895 seminar.((NOT TO ME))
((Like I SAID its PLACEBO EFFECT)). ((Ross we don't just want
confidence, WE WANT TO GET LAID.))
And, I mean, I'm not a total loser. I did get her phone number.
(( I'm wondering who he's referring to, Ross.)) ((Even Tony Ortega is
a better speed seducer than you are.)) (( At least he got a phone
number, he triumphed were you failed miserably.))
((AND THAT MY FRIENDS, IS THE PISS POOR RESULTS YOU GET WHEN YOU SPEED
SEDUCE)).
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