mASF post by "TylerDurden"
posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, November 11, 2002Disclaimer. Some of the following methods, tactics, and techniques could be
prosecutable as a crime in some jurisdictions. Check all local laws before
applying the content of this site to real life encounters with the opposite
sex.
For instance, touching someone can be a convictable offence in New York City.
Sex with women under the influence of intoxicants can also be illegal in most
jurisdictions.
Okay, so you wanna get laid more right? DUH else you wouldn't be here. Maybe
you are a fan of other works on seduction and discovered me through their
sites, or maybe this is your first venture into the methods of seduction. Maybe
you found me through the ASF (alt.seduction.fast) newsgroup, and you were one
of the guys who requested and demanded an outline, or more of a specific manual
of my style. Well anyway, you've now found my methods.
I’ll tell you a little about myself, my name is Robert Ryan (known as
‘gunwitch’ on ASF). In case you wonder my name is derived from the fact that I
am an avid hand gunner as well as a 10-year practitioner and student of
seduction and PU (pick ups), "real" witchcraft, magik, state manipulation and
all ranges of the "influence" sphere. I started out using simple psychology,
then NLP (neural linguistic programming), and eventually evolved a much simpler
understanding of women and methods of dealing with them, which has been gained
through psychology and human study, but even more so through years of
interactive analysis.
What "simpler understanding" you may ask? Well after YEARS and YEARS of study,
fieldwork, and seductions, the thing that led me here was that I conquered my
weight problem. I am 5'7 (5'9'' in my "field" boots) and used to weigh a "power
lifter styled" mix of muscle and fat that was 240 lbs. Not a pretty picture to
look at, hence my study of seduction. I finally got down to a leaner, muscular
185lbs. This is when I noticed a massive change in dealing with women. They
made it easier - less testing, less flake outs, and less overall resistance to
my sexing them.
I had always been taught that it is not the product, but the marketing, that
gets someone to buy something. I had always learned that "it’s what’s on the
inside” that counts. Also, that "women think different from men", "women don't
really like sex so it doesn't matter what you look like, but more what you say
or make them feel". Comforting words to the unattractive guy, But not something
that produces results for the said guy.
Perhaps you’re saying "but then what am I gonna do??? I'm an ugly, short or fat
fucker!" Well the same understandings and methods I discovered with the
understanding that women LOVE sex, just as much as men do is gonna be your key
to getting them as well. There are methods and tactics that will get you sex
with HOT women even if you are less than average in looks. The same methods I
and other semi attractive guys can use to land 8-10 scale women without hardly
any rejection can be used by you to land the same women with just a little more
effort, and a little more rejections.
I have trained men who were FAT, ugly, average and good looking to do the same
things I do and gotten them laid FAST without much study at all or any
improvement to their looks.
So give this a chance, if you wanna get laid.
Section 1:
The first understanding you must have, is what I mean when I refer to a
"state". I simply mean your state of mind, the feelings in your body, and the
overall YOU at any given moment. Can you recall a time, the last time that you
were totally HOT and HORNY for a woman - to the point you had an erection, felt
slight pain in your stomach, how you looked at her, and how you were thinking
at the moment. What did that feel like? You were in "sexual state" at that
point.
Section 2:
Women think VERY similarly, and operate biologically quite the same sexually as
men. Since biblical times, women have been conditioned by society that this is
wrong though. They put on a mask that conforms to social norms. The "slut"
"whore" or promiscuous woman who has many sexual partners is actually superior
in her lack of suggestibility compared to regular women who maintain monogamous
relationships because of societal expectations. Things had not been this way in
the human mating ritual prior to the last 2-5000 years. Beta (inferior less
attractive) males who happened to be intellectually superior set up
misogynistic arranged marriages, barter systems for financial ownership of
wives, religious persecution and moral persecution for women who enjoyed sex
with the alpha (superior more attractive) males, as a means of being able to
secure sex for themselves with no alpha competition.
Today, religion, moral conduct, and societal expectations cannot RULE the
female sex drive, nor her instincts and her desires by force. This leads us ALL
to a problem. Women seek and choose long term relationships with only the most
desirable of men. They often try to entrap the alpha male into unnatural sex
commitments, while giving the beta male no sex because they want to have one
partner, and do not want it to be a beta male. Kinda backfired on them cheeky
little shit heel betas didn't it?
Now women "cheat" when they want sexual variety and then are scorned by society
as "sluts" or "unfaithful bitches", despite the reality that it’s just natural
for a sexually healthy human being to want variety in sex partners.
It is VITAL to have the understanding that women (sexually healthy non frigid
women) LOVE sex and desire it just as much as we do. YET they cannot come out
and admit it or be labelled a slut, AND cannot act on it with anyone’s
knowledge or be labelled the same far faster. Of course, as of late, more and
more women are admitting their desire for sex more casually.
Section 3:
The lone wolf.
Approaching single, lone women will be the staple of you sexual diet.
Attempting to seduce women while in the company of others, her friends, your
friends, and other people in general is often a dumb idea. “WHY”, you ask? Read
section 2 again. They want sex, they want sex NOW with almost any guy who isn't
obese or deformed, but they do not want the world to know, and they will start
to think "if I do this what will it make THEM think", rather than "do I trust
this guy" "am I attracted to this guy" and "what is he making ME feel
sexually". Reading this material from the standpoint of applying it at a party
or in front of 3 women at a time will make it seem unworkable. So read from the
perspective of you and a single lone (isolated) woman, or distanced from others
(semi isolated), and it will come into focus.
Section 4:
Your initial state when seeing women you want is very important: the right one
will cause you to approach them, the wrong one will panic and confuse you -
preventing you from taking any action to ever meet them. If you do not meet
them you almost certainly CANNOT have sex with them. Your internal state when
you first see an attractive woman must be one of sexual enthusiasm, horniness,
and unapologetic desire. NOT one of panic and wonder of what to do or what to
say. When you first see your lone wolf, in a bar, a coffee house, a dept store,
a bank, the gym -ANYWHERE - (I like the magazine racks at dept stores, where I
can stand there and wait ‘til some Cosmo magazine reading hottie comes into
what feels to her like your space, and feels like she’s approaching, then boom
I’m on it "so what ya reading?"), anyway ANYWHERE you see them you must imagine
having sex with her, visualize it, feel the desire and lust. ALWAYS do this as
soon as you see a woman you find attractive and eventually the state you will
go into when seeing a woman will be one of –sexual- state, rather than panic or
fear of meeting her. This makes approaching random lone women easier. Ted
Bundy, the infamous serial killer/sociopath didn't feel fear or panic when he
saw a target. He felt rage, sexual perversion and desire to kill, hence NO fear
to approach them, of course wanting to have sex isn’t the same thing, but its
still more effective than feeling fear or confusion about your desires and
direction.
One thing ill mention here. I cannot give you real desire for sex, it must be
natural. If you could have a new ULTRA 10 hot bodied perfect woman in your bed
every night, yet EVERYONE else would see her as a nasty ugly fat girl, would
you still do it? NO I’m not gonna alter you in some supernatural way for you to
think ugly women are good looking. If you said “no” to this question though,
you need to evaluate if you want women for shared sexual gratifications, or if
you want them to impress friends, family and co workers? Do you wanna be a
“ladies man” A “seduction master?” the “scoring machine” amongst your buds? Of
course, who doesn’t? But is that more of a concern than actually having good
sex with women you find attractive? If so then you need to A. stop masturbating
so much (to increase you drive), B search yourself to see if you are a real
heterosexual, C maybe consider getting an “armpiece” girlfriend for the social
status you desire, D learn to quench your lusts with sexual gratification
rather than keep trying to create envy in others, as you’ll never be convinced
you’ve done enough of that. If you want and desire new, exciting, frequent
sexual experiences with different fresh women then read on.
Section 5:
Understand that women do not have some kind of special intuition about people,
see Ted Bundy example above for proof. A lot of crap floats around about female
minds being different or more intuitive, "they can smell an agenda" "if you
don't come from a genuine place of curiosity and care they will reject you"
blah blah blah. You WANT them to "smell your agenda" of wanting sex, this is a
GOOD thing, as long as it isn't verbalized. This is what women call a "subtle
confident man". I will discuss how to MAKE her understand your intentions
WITHOUT words later on. It is a good thing for her to know you want sex,
without you being tacky and verbalizing it (making her reject you because of
her societal conditioning mentioned earlier).
Section 6:
Looks count, though perhaps not as much as is typically presumed. As was
discussed in Section 2, women think MUCH like men when it comes to mating.
To illustrate:
Imagine being alone in a room, with an ugly or mediocre woman. She comes over
and lays her head on your lap. You hear her whisper, "I like you a lot". She
smiles, comes up, and kisses you. Your friends are not there, and they will
never know. You are getting more turned on as she rubs your upper legs, inching
closer, closer, and closer to your crotch. What are you gonna do to stop her?
Answer this only to yourself - not to friends or people who could judge you -
and you’ll know that you’d likely have sex with her. ONLY in the case that she
is nearly deformed, smells bad, or is morbidly obese ect., would you be likely
to turn her down. Essentially, you’d only turn her down if she failed turn you
on at that time.
To further explicate, consider the following. Not an exact science by any
means, but perhaps a rough model of what you can generally expect.
Looks, Effort, and their Interrelation:
Looks scale: -1- being the worst conceivable, and –10- being the best.
Effort scale (amount of women approached): -1- being utterly rarely, -5- being
a few on weekends or acquaintances from social circles, and -10- being at least
three new women per day.
Take a guy who is a –1- in looks (perhaps fat, short, hideous face, balding,
old, smelly, poorly dressed, etc.), but a -10- in effort. This guy will STILL
land women who are -5.5s- once in while, and –3s- frequently.
To explain, allocate 1 total point for every 2 points on the scale, for what
you can get with maximum effort. So, if you are a –10- in looks, but only exert
a –1- in effort, you can probably still sex -5.5s- (ie. 11 divided by 2) on
occasion, and approximately half of that, or -3s-, whenever you are inclined.
Eventually you will arrive at someplace in between your –maximum- capacity and
your –easy- capacity for your regular quality of women.
I, for instance, am maybe an –8- in looks (short, ok face, good built body,
well dressed and groomed), and a –10- in effort. So dividing by two, we
allocate 4 points for looks and 5 points for effort, arriving at a 9 at
–maximum- capacity, and approx. 5 at –easy- capacity. I have of course gotten
some 10s in my day, but that's just the deviation, as women higher than 6 would
be for Example Guy #1. So to recap:
Example Guy 1:
-1-LOOKS + -10-EFFORT = 11,
THEREFORE,
MAXIMUM CAPACITY = 5.5, EASY CAPACITY = approx. 3
Gunwitch:
-8-LOOKS + -10-EFFORT = 18,
THEREFORE,
MAXIMUM CAPACITY = 9, EASY CAPACITY = approx. 5
What creates the extra points from effort is that you meet MORE women, so SOME
of these women will find even the guy with –1-looks/-10-effort somewhat
attractive. Probably the best that he will ever do is a 6 who somehow finds him
attractive. Mr –10-looks/-1-effort could go out approaching at a 5.5 in effort
and change his whole lot, because he would meet so many more women who would
find him attractive, but instead he takes the easy ones. His loss. By the way,
Mr.-10-looks/-1-effort, and Mr. –1-looks/-10-effort are both REAL people that I
know, and it works out about the same for both of them with women. If Mr.
–1-looks/-10-effort suddenly stopped meeting and trying to seduce new women, he
would probably go to his grave never having had sex again, unless maybe with
some chance woman of his low calibre were to come along and make the effort
herself.
Section 7
There are –many- ideas about seduction, getting laid, having a lot of women,
ect, that can be debated and contested. But there is –one- that cannot be by
anyone with any rational thought process. You MUST make an effort.
Specifically, you must approach women on the street, at gyms, dept stores,
bars, nightclubs and any other venues you can come up with. Sure you can get a
job working with women or a gimmick to try to attract them to you, but its 5%
as effective as actually doing the work, and having the will and drive. Simple
logic, which can escape from you if you over-complicate your style of dealing
with women. Don’t just sit and memorize materials til the end of time, get out
and apply things you learn. HARDEST part to do in any area of life. WILLPOWER
to try is more important than any formula for success.
I’m gonna do you a huge favor right here in this section. Maybe give you
ultimate success with women maybe save you from reading any further and wasting
your time. Decide will you A, go out and try this stuff on AT LEAST 1 woman
within the next week, and at least 1 every week after that? OR, will you stop
reading now and decide you don’t really have the willpower to try?
Of course if you KNOW you are just reading this for the hell of it, and don’t
wanna have sex with lots of women that’s fine. But don’t read it, question it,
analyze it and determine it can’t work for you, get up and do something.
Section 8
As HARPED on above you MUST approach. Moreover, you MUST be in "sexual state"
or be turned-on/horny for your target. Any fear of doing so must be quelled by
the realization that she wants sex just as much as you do, though maybe not
with you, and that the way society is structured it is YOUR job to initiate the
encounter and find out. The sexual state, along with the realization that she
wants sex, will make you do MOST if not ALL of the actions necessary to be your
most attractive all by themselves.
It exudes a "confidence" that,
-makes you speak with a better more attractive tone of voice (bedroom voice)
-causes you to hold eye contact better and more sensually
-causes you to touch her more and more sexually (getting her ready for the
sexual encounter)
-causes you to keep a level of physical closeness that builds a strong sense of
comfort in her
-causes you to not pander or be a beggar (as you realize are just as valuable
sexually), so,
-you don't buy her drinks like the rest of the losers do
-you don't give insincere compliments like the rest of the losers do
-you don't pander to her to entertain like the rest of the losers do
-you don't brag like the losers do
-you don't come off sexually androgynous and hide your masculinity like the
losers do
And as a result of all this, you are not branded yet another everyday chump
hitting on her.
Your single-minded intention, body language, and sexuality prevents the bad
"loser" type actions, and nurtures the seductive ones - all in one single
state. You are branded a sexual being, boyfriend material, sexual material, IF
the requisite physical attraction is there.
Section 9
I will now attempt to give you some grasp of the above seductive behaviours
that will create an optimum level of attraction, and some grasp of those that
will make you seem a loser or move things in the wrong directions.
Operating under an understanding that women love sex, need their desires filled
the same as men, and shouldn't be paid or rewarded for something they want to
share just as much as you do, will allow you to avoid the damning behaviours
covered in section 9.
9.1 Chump or champ? The chump thinks women “GIVE” a man sex because its more
important to them, and they should be paid for it by means such as "dates"
undeserved compliments, humour, entertainment ect. A champ knows women love sex
just as much as men so therefore the gift that is given in return for sex with
a woman is the sex itself. Which are you? When was the last time you
complimented a woman? Was it a woman that you wanted sex with? Have you ever
complimented a woman you didn't want sex with? Have you ever complimented
someone for something other than their appearance? Ask yourself these questions
and you’ll know if you are acting like a chump or a champ.
9.2 Do you brag around women? Well stop it if you do. If she isn't attracted to
you, and even if she is, this isn't moving things into any kind of a sexual
encounter. It is a waste of time and energy to brag, as everyone can see it
when someone does it, and takes the claims made as lies, even if they are true.
BE SEXUAL, as this serves to project without words that you are good in bed,
well endowed, and worthwhile enough to be this confident. Of course don’t put
yourself down either. This is very powerful knowledge that I’m giving you here,
which few people know, and since I have a 130 IQ I can decipher this type of
thing.
See that was bragging and it was kinda lame huh? That was a joke, and ALSO not
a good idea during a seduction. Here is why……
9.3 A commonly observed scenario: a woman laughs at guy’s jokes, and then ends
up having sex with him later on. Predictably, every guy there says, "She must
like a guy with a sense of humour", and proceed to go out and ENTERTAIN, rather
than seduce women, in hopes that she will like them SOOO much she will jump his
bones right there. Not gonna happen unless she is VERY attracted. We wanna work
with what looks we have and move them in the right directions for sex better
than other guys, not create a non sexual rapport with jokes and funny stories.
When a woman is asked "what do you like in a guy?", she doesn’t usually say
"LOOKS and GOOD SEX" or else be branded a slut. SO, she grumbles "a guy with a
sense of humour". She LIKES those funny men, she doesn't HAVE SEX WITH those
funny men unless they happen to be attractive as well as funny. By the way,
when a woman says "confidence" that's as close to saying " a guy who knows I
wanna have sex and creates the opportunity for it aggressively" as women
usually get. Don't listen to what women (or men) say, but rather observe what
they do, and your eyes will not deceive or confuse you like your mind’s
interpretations of the words will. A sense of humour isn't a bad thing, but its
not sexually motivating or progressive. Stand up comedians are often natural
entertainers because they have learned that their poor looks can be accepted
that way. Checkstand or bar stool comedians are the same entity with less
talent. At the end of the night they go home and fuck the sleeve of their
favourite jacket rather than a woman. Some people say "nice guys finish last",
because they see the funny entertainer go home alone. While the horny
aggressive "jerk" gets the woman sexually turned on and moves her into
isolation with him, rather than entertaining her endlessly in public.
9.4 Payment based behaviours such as buying drinks for women at bars, giving
them flowers, fixing their things, driving them places you aren’t going with
her to, are all LOSER actions. Of course people like things like this, but
these things conveys to her sexuality as "he isn't valid sexually because he is
a poor lover or has a small penis, so he pays for sex with gifts of his time
and money, he is a beta male". During ALL initial encounters with women, if
requests are made for anything, ask yourself "would I do this for a causal
acquaintance or male stranger?" If your answer is “no”, then don't do it. Of
course you might buy a good friend accompanied to a bar a drink, but would you
really buy a male stranger a drink? Didn't think so, unless it was to PAY him
for something. Wanna test it out? Go buy 10 women at a bar a drink, and see if
you don't walk out alone with 4-5 "thank yous”, a glare, and 4-5 waves of
astonishment for your troubles. Do it 100 times and you may get a girl that's
REALLY attracted to you that will engage sex with you, but you've now paid 500
dollars (5 bucks a drink) to get there. Go to a brothel if you want to pay for
sex like a lowly john.
9.5 Reading her palm, doing a psychic "cold reading", doing a handwriting
analysis, playing a game of some kind ARE all LOSER behaviours as well. You may
get lucky and she wont decipher that you are paying her with this entertainment
and brand you a poor lover or micro penis equipped man, but it STILL does not
move them into a sexual direction of any kind, so don't waste the time.
Besides, tampering with these mystic forces is a one-way ticket to eternity in
hell, ha ha ha.
9.6 Speaking romantically or about wonderful states of mind and such may brand
you a good boyfriend or husband material, which may eventually lead you to sex
with her. It will go WITH her social conditioning rather than busting through
it and getting to the natural woman who likes sex. However, she will most times
"make you wait" or want to "date" first in this context. "Making the guy wait"
is a time-honoured bullshit social conditioning that being romantic or "don
jaun" "Casanova" style will get you into 75% of the time with any given women.
This is STILL paying for sex, just in a more effective though more time
consuming way than other standard suck up tactics. Do this kind of thing AFTER
sex if you want to see her again and pursue a long-term relationship. There is
no more sure-fire way to get a woman into a romantic relationship than to have
sex with her right away, because unless she has one night stands A LOT she will
justify her break in conditioning with "it was love at first sight" or "we just
had such a good chemistry I couldn't make my new boyfriend wait". By the way
get caller id if you are gonna have a lot of one night stands, or avoid the
woman knowing where you live or your phone number. The same dynamic I just
wrote about will cause women to stalk you and demand relationships, if you
aren't ready for that be prepared to say "get lost" a lot.
Entertainment, gimmicks and flattery can only buy you RAPPORT with women, they
do not build attraction or guarantee sex. If after using something like this to
get a rapport, you find yourself in bed with a girl, she would’ve been there
FASTER if you hadn’t used the pandering, entertaining and ass kissing
beforehand. CONSERVE YOUR TIME for women who are actually attracted to you.
9.7 DATES: NO DATES from here on out. The simple act of going on a date
immediately puts her social conditioning into play HEAVY and the "make him
wait" dynamic is introduced. I have NEVER been on a date with a woman, and I
have had plenty of sex. Get the woman isolated with you (alone. just you and
her out of public) soon after the initial approach for your "date" aka getting
to know each other. I’ll discuss how to do this later on.
9.8 NO PHONE NUMBERS, from here on out, you can go out and get 10 numbers a day
for 30 days, that's 300 numbers, of those 300 maybe ONE will end up in bed with
you after you call. If on all 300 you had stayed there after you approached,
conveyed your sexual state, waited for her to go into sexual state, and then
isolated her, you would have only approached 50 tops the whole month as you
would have been to preoccupied in bed with 10 of those 50, avoiding another 250
approaches. If she finds you at all attractive she will talk to you right then
and there, and most likely if you play the game right go home with you that day
or from that bar, or into the sex room at a party.
Section 10: Sexual state broken down.
Sexual state is THE most important thing you will learn from this guide. It is
THE mind state you will be using to deal with women you want to sleep with. It
is most likely the mind state you've had every time you ever sexed a woman in
the past, at least as soon as the point came when you KNEW it was gonna happen.
There is a certain "walks like a duck acts like a duck, must be a duck" dynamic
working for you in the sexual state. If you act like her lover, act like you
are in a sexual encounter and assume the behaviours and actions of a great
lover, she eventually will start to think you are a waterfowl. Just kidding, of
course she starts to go into the same states of mind from other sexual
encounters she has had in the past, if she is at all attracted. This is what’s
called "rapport congruency". You can look it up if you want to read 300 pages
of dime store psychology, but suffice to say, if all the actions and states are
present your mind kinda starts to assume it's the same situation, a milder form
of "déjà vu".
Furthermore, when someone perceives something in someone, but isn't directly
told to them verbally by the person, they tend to think its THEY who are the
ones imagining it – that it is comes from within them. That's why I tell you
later to not verbalize your sexual intent in any way, as when you don’t, she
will more likely to think, "Why am I thinking sexually about this guy….hmmm I
must want him or else I wouldn't see him as such a horny guy."
The "sexual state" is readily stepped into by imagining how you interacted with
your last lover when in the bedroom before sex, or during pillow talk, and had
a lustful desire for the woman. These are the things that it should encompass.
These specifics are not to be used individually, but as an overall state that
you go into when dealing with a woman. Read Bruce Lees Tao of Jet Kun Doe for
an understanding of not focusing on specific technique but rather on overall
strategy that encompasses several techniques. My method has been compared to
this type of "fluid" theory, contrasting other seduction methods that are
closer to classical Karate, which focuses on memorized techniques that take
longer to master, and are harder to remember under stress. What follows of more
of a troubleshooting guide.
10. Sensual eye contact (EC). Proper eye contact with a woman is an important
piece of your sexual state. The "bedroom eyes" are something you will need to
convey during the encounter, since you want her to develop them as well, as she
gets more and more comfortable with you and begins to mirror your actions and
"vibe". "Bedroom eyes" are also much more attractive than darting or fearful
eyes.
10.1 Closeness, or for the nit picks "physical proximity" to her is also very
important. Since you aren't gonna be seductive or sensual standing 2 feet away
from her, you need to be within 6-8 inches of her - VERY CLOSE. You slowly move
into this as you sense her loosening up a bit. Of course good breath is a
crucial at this point. Brush you tongue and FLOSS those back molars out so your
mouth doesn't smell like something that passed through the system of a morbidly
obese 10-year-old boy. See "conversation" section for why not to say that last
sentence in front of a woman, as well.
10.2 Touch her. Since touch is the first step in getting her comfortable with
you as a sexual creature, you want to sneak this in slowly. A good progression
is: hands, arms, lowers back, upper back, face (while whispering something to
her) and hair, then thighs (hand placed but relatively stationary), and upper
legs. You should NOT look at you hands as you touch her, as this alerts her to
a "question" - "is it ok to touch there?" in dynamic. Also, her eyes will
follow your eyes to the touching and it will be unnatural, thus questioned by
her or rejected. Touching also shows that "confidence", and may alert her to
your being good with women, a fine lover, and confident lover. It demonstrates,
"I am not afraid to touch women, because women like to be touched by me", to
her inner workings.
Touch early on also is a HUGE time saver, if she is so uncomfortable with you
touching her right from the start as to physically or verbally stop it, NOTHING
you say or do, short of saving her life is gonna get her into a sexual state
for you.
10.3 Tone of voice should be that of a sexual tone. You can’t run up yelling
like Adolf Hitler at a nazi youth rally speech, or mumbling and stammering like
Woody Allen. NOT SEXY. Not "talks like a duck". Imagine you are talking to a
former or current girlfriend in a bed and about to have sex. You soften your
voice, you deepen your voice, you speak slower and with an inflection of
optimism and kindness. Not your regular speaking voice but YOUR sensual sexual
voice. They were right when they said "just be yourself" they just never told
you what "self" to be.
Simply sliding into the sexual state will likely encompass the above behaviours
inside of itself. Overall these are the medium sized chunks of sexual state,
the large being "be horny", and the small likely being to many to ever be fully
understood. The small chunks may encompass micro facial expressions, body
positioning, or even ESP (extra sensory perception) . Its like how knowing
there are vitamins A, C, D in a fruit, and taking those things out and using
them in a pill, doesn't give you all of the undiscovered things that are inside
a fruit that may be beneficial. We just KNOW A,C,D are essential for good
health. It's the same here, we know that sections 10.1,2,3 of this guide are
the medium chunks of what’s essential, and we know that eating the fruit is
essential (natural sexual state). Lets just live naturally rather than trying
to condense it all into a pill or formula and ENJOY eating the fruit (being
horny) that gives us all we need.
Now, advanced deal here. Not really a part of sexual state itself, but an
obstacle to it sometimes and dealing with it.
10.4 State matching. Quickly notice her state before you approach, is she UP,
kinda down, or laughing a lot? STAY in the sexual state, but keep your actions
kind of similar to hers so as to not break her state entirely, causing you to
be seen as intrusive (breaking rapport). You want to convey the sexual state,
but you don't wanna break her state either. This is another reason lone wolfs
are easier to go for, as they usually aren't in some kind of "group state" of
ruckus or laughter ect. You can approach women in strange states by matching
theirs once you get far more advanced, but go more for the calm ones at first.
This takes a butload of practice to get down, but as I said this is a
trouble-shooting section and not techniques to obsess on.
As an example of state matching WHILE conveying sexual state: Imagine your
girlfriend just got home from work she’s EXCITED as hell about a promotion she
got at work. Now you've been waiting all day to have sex with her, but you
wouldn't just walk up and go sexual on her because it might break her state and
cause her to kind of reel back. Instead, you would put your arms around her and
say some sort of “wow that's great”, in about half the excitement level she
has. This will curb her excited state slightly enough for her to begin
recognizing your sexual state.
So say she’s really down because her cat just died, you kinda get a little bit
down too, but not completely as down as she is. This makes her kinda follow you
into the less depressed state, enough so that she can pickup on your sexual
state. She of course assumes it’s HER sexual state, since you aren't saying
anything sexual and she just perceives it. So, "I must be horny cause I’m so
sad" or "getting excited about this promotion got me excited about other things
as well" is what she thinks. Of course it works a little less on strangers than
a girlfriend, as they don't yet see you as a sexual outlet (except by virtue of
being a man and having a penis). So it takes them some time to say "why am I
horny for this guy".
Simple huh? No? Sorry, this last one takes some field practice to get down.
Section 11
What to say. What you say isn't that important – rather, its how you present
yourself to her. Still you need to talk or be labelled an alien so here goes.
Simple advice and techniques, as the sexual state, is FAR more important to
convey than what you say to her is.
The opener, as I said can just be simple a "hi", "hello", or "you from around
here" ect. Introduce yourself at some point with your FULL name, first and
last. People used to do this and it had a touch of class, dignity, pride and
authority. Now its like, "I’m Dan, I don't have a last name I’m just Dan, I’m
simple Dan ". Also being on first and last name basis is good, as she won’t
feel like a "slut" for having sex with some guy who she can’t delude herself to
think she knows. Get used to introducing yourself this way all the time and
within 6 months it’ll be natural so you don't have to think about it.
Say her first name a few times after meeting her, like before a question -
"Becky, how do you find yourself in Los Angeles?" Many psychologists say that
hearing your name from someone builds a connection, as they usually only hear
it from friends, family, and people they like. Don't obsess on these small
details, but if you can remember to work it into your convo, great. So long as
its not at the expense of breaking your sexual state, and failing to convey
that to her. Might be a buncha pop psychology bullshit anyway. Try to get used
to doing it though, as it can’t really hurt anything and may help.
The conversation. You don't need to worry about what you aren't saying to get
into women’s pants. It’s what you’re saying to keep you -out of them- that you
need be concerned about. Try not to swear so much you fucking asshole, its not
really sexy. Don't talk about puke, shit, piss, ejaculate, death, your horrid
job, her horrid job, illness, religion, politics, rape, child molestation,
pornography, or SEX (yes that's right no sex talk, being sexual yet tactful
with your words is what women call "subtle”, and as was mentioned, gets them
thinking sexually EASIER than saying it outright). Nothing NEGATIVE. You don't
wanna talk about her problems or negative things, so if it comes up change the
subject. Otherwise, she'll tend to associate negative things with you. It’s the
same problem that talking about romance and love ect, causes, except in
reverse. You don’t wanna talk about these things that she associates as GOOD
with you, because it will prod her to put you into a dating "make him wait"
frame of reference. The same goes for negative topics. You want the topics as
neutral. People underestimate the power of just getting to know each other as a
comfort builder between folks, so they complicate it with LOADS of "say this,
say that" armchair psychology.
Just get to know each other as you convey your sexual state, and watch for hers
to appear. "Where are you from?", " what do ya like bout the area", "what’s
your favourite TV show?", "why do you like it?", "what do you like to do for
fun", "ok well IDEALY what would you LIKE to do for fun?" (they never DO what
they like for fun, but like to talk about it). Keep it light -> "getting to
know each other before we fuck" kinda dynamic. More important to stay in sexual
state than to try to "say the right thing" or "get her to think this about me
by saying this" ect. Have some fucking curiosity about people you are gonna do
the wamba mamba with would ya!!!!!!!! Her imagining you doing your hobbies,
watching the same TV show, going out to the same drive in ect, gets her to
imagine you as a normal person, not some guy with a van, ball gag, camera
equipment, and a pistol outside waiting to lure her into the lead role of a
"snuff" film.
The power of "me too-ing". Saying, "oh my god that's so true", or "me too I
love that" ect even when it's a lie, makes you seem more "meant to be" or
“compatible”. This is the best verbal technique I've come across yet. Opposites
attract? BULL, people hook up with people who are in the same kind of place
mentally, or at least who are somewhat agreeable with their little "model of
the world".
Let her get to know you. If she’s at all attracted the conversation will get 2
sided within a minute or so.
BIGGEST OF ALL, don't leave, eject, walk off ect just because there is a lull
in conversation. She may like you ALOT but she’s nervous and can’t think of
much to say. You just haven't verbally connected yet or found out anything
about each other. Do you know how many people have lost the love of their life
because they didn't give it 5 more seconds???? 910,876,531 that's how many! No
I don't fucking know, but GET REJECTED, don't just walk off. "make the ho say
no"
Not a lot of conversation material here huh? Well most guys who are getting
bikini models and strippers, as well as all other women into bed, have NO
scripts, NO hypnosis phooey, and NO lines. They are just acceptably attractive
enough, even slightly overweight, maybe a little short, maybe a kinda odd
looking, BUT GO FOR IT! They don't hide their sexuality and they persist where
other men tuck tail and run.
I commonly get snubbed, the cold shoulder ect or overall rejected with the
women I have sex with right away, but I just persist and eventually things take
a turn. You love to breath right? Well I don't care how bad a fart is lingering
around you are eventually gonna say "shit I love to breath I think its worth it
to smell the fart". Air = sex, bad fart smell = your love handles, bad teeth,
short stature or balding head in this metaphor. Cyanide gas = morbid obesity,
stinky armpits, deformities and such. They’d rather hold their breath forever =
rather go without sex than have it with him.
Section 12
Watching for her sexual state. As you maintain your sexual state and convey it
to her (as you’re get to know each other), the MAIN key is watching for her to
finally move into sexual state herself. THIS is when the iron is hot, and you
must strike while that iron is hot. This is when you isolate her (as in lone
wolf example, and in mildly unattractive woman getting guy alone example).
The keys to recognizing her sexual state coming to be are again something
difficult to explain but EASY to recognize. Good explanations are: she lowers
eyes and smiles coyly at you, starts to look at your crotch or touch you back
sensually, gets flushed and seemingly embarrassed (soon to be bareassed), and
starts to stare "hornily" at you and play with something in her hands slowly.
These types of things are strong indicators. As you deal more and more with
women, you’ll get to know a sexual state in a woman more readily.
Its kinda like you both are in sexual state, you know it, she knows it, she
knows you know it, and you know she knows it, so its time to isolate and make
bacon (had to add a tasteless reference in there, ask me about "hot buttered
corn" some time while not in mixed company).
Section 13
ISOLATE. You cannot have sex with women in public or in front of people with
any consistency. If that's your bag, try it with women you are already in a
relationship with. You have to get her alone with you. ANY opportunity to
isolate BEFORE going into sexual state should be taken as well of course.
A semi-isolation is a good tactic at bars during the seduction stage. She will
undoubtedly have friends with her who will up her social conditioning, AND try
to ruin sex for the 2 of you out of jealousy or concern for her safety. This
tends to happen BEFORE you've gotten her amped up sexually enough to snub them
and come with you. At a bar, when you see a group and want one of them, WAIT
for her to leave the herd, wait for her to be coming out of the bathroom (not
IN as she may have to piss bad), wait for her to go to the bar to get a drink,
wait for her to be ALONE to approach, and then try to keep her from her
friends. Take her to the dance floor, ask her to another part of the club to
shoot pool or talk ("its quieter over there"). In public this isn't so easy,
they will think you are weird if they catch you watching them. So when in
public, if you've just GOTTA try for a girl in a group, get a phone number and
chalk it up as a loss. Or, if you've got balls of steel, sit down and try it
out. Then, watch in horror as the friends ruin it. In public, don't try to
entertain these groups to "get in"; it's a waste of time that could be spent on
a lone wolf.
A full isolation (your house, her house, your back seat, a broom closet, a sex
room at a party ect) is for after you see her go into a sexual state. What you
say isn't important, "lets save some money and go back to MY place and have
some drinks” (at a bar), "I’m having a barbecue up at my place later you wanna
come up and listen to some music for a while" (when in public), or "you should
come over to my place and check out my weight equipment" (at the gym). Once
they are in sexual state they are ITCHING for ANY opportunity, so you don't
need some smooth line. "Lets go in here" to a sales clerk as I opened the door
to a storage room, worked once.
Of course if a girl NEVER goes into sexual state for a long period of time, you
just try to isolate her anyway and "make the ho say no". NEVER eject. Always
either get either a lay, or a rejection. Only TWO options. Don't bail out by
getting a number or something. The ONLY time you get a number is if she is
totally strapped for time and making excuses of that nature, and in that case
call her once and don't think about her again.
Section 14 (hey I’m superstitious)
The close. Once isolated, the words "why don't you come sit with me"? or "why
don't you come lay down here?" are CHAMPION. Of course in a broom closet you
just press up against the wall and start kissing. At home after you get her
laying with you or sitting on your lap ect, you start to touch her even more at
this point, stroking her hair saying it smells nice (HER HAIR YOU PERVS), you
then get a good eye contact going and go in for a kiss, give her a soft light
kiss with no tongue at first, keep this going until things progress to French
kissing, give a good 30 minutes of foreplay to get her REALLY turned on so that
she doesn't give last minute resistance. Clothes don’t come off for 15-20
minutes panties don't come off for 25-30 minutes. Then you are on your own, I’m
not godamn Dr. Ruth.
14.1 the last minute problem with sex. This happens sometimes, she'll say "I
don't know you enough" ect. When this happens don't get mad or upset ect. Just
say, "I understand" or "ok, this is nice though huh?" then go back to necking
and making out. Eventually go back in for the sex, if happens again say "I
understand" and go back in for more kissing and making out, and repeat until it
goes through. Hell even if she never gets ready, what have you got better to do
than make out with some hot little number? You've got no real "make the ho say
no" style of getting a close or getting a rejection to work with at this point,
as she already has said no but MAY change her mind. DO NOT struggle or tug or
bear weight on her at this stage, as that is considered rape. Use persistence
not force, and you'll be ok.
Section 15
Relations with women. This isn't integral to the system just some advice I'd
like to dispense, which you may find useful in dealing with women. I’m no
relationship expert but these have been ideal ways of looking at things in my
experience.
15.1 Relationships are really based on attraction. If one partner knows they
can do better they will usually treat the other party poorly or not reciprocate
the attention. If you are a "5" and want a long lasting relationship that you
feel some love in, find another "5" with a compatible personality. Of course,
you’ll know you can do better (with these skills), but you’ll also know they
can’t.
Less jealousy, insecurity, and overall hidden desire to get someone better. You
get with a 3 and you are a 5, and you won’t feel much of anything for them in
the way of passion and desire, so you’ll make them kinda miserable and
insecure. You get with a 10 and you’ll know you can get another one (with these
skills) but your attraction will cause you a rampant level of lust and desire
that just isn't reciprocated. That will just make you feel like shit all the
time. Kinda the "only people I fall in love with don't love me back" syndrome,
so common these days.
15.2 In ANY relationship a good method to avoid pain, mess, and eventual
heartbreak is to ALWAYS look at how you are being treated and how the
relationship makes you feel. NOT at what you feel for them. To do this gauges
the base level of passion and attraction she has to you. At the FIRST
discomfort or pain caused by the woman in your life, LEAVE. Make her crawl back
and apologize. Following this method will set boundaries that will last. You
leave and won’t take her calls, and she has to crawl back to you crying the
first time she yells at you or hurts you, and there probably wont be a second
serving of that dish. It’s hard to do, but it’s important to your well-being.
Jaded? Flighty? No. I’d say smart, as it doesn't drag out something that's
gonna end anyway, leaving you hurt worse than if it had ended sooner. " It is
far better to resist at the beginning than at the end" - somebody.
15.3 If a relationship goes bad, or hurts at all, and is dragging out as
"friendship" or such, CUT IT CLEAN and you’ll get over it sooner. If you don't
it may drag on for a long time. These kinds of relationships drain you in all
other areas of life, try not to avoid them at all costs, but if you find
yourself in one, RUN! “Work it out” with someone new.
15.4 When you are in the grasp of love and obsession over a girl always ask,
"If I could have sex and a relationship (if I wanted one) with the next 10
beautiful women I see, would I forget that I ever knew the one I am with right
now?" If yes, you would, you don't love her. You are sex-addicted and probably
putting up with way too much shit. Its time to have a showdown with her, unless
she’s just a fancy of yours of course. Also ask yourself when in an LTR or when
being just friends, "if I could come and have sex with this woman as frequent
as I want, but would lose ALL other activities and conversations with her,
would I trade that?" If you would only want her for sex, don't put up with her
shit if she’s giving you any. Don’t waste time with someone you really don't
enjoy, when you could be out finding something more enjoyable and compatible,
ALONG with sex in that time spent.
15.5 Women sooth issues. A break up from a long term relationship can be murder
on your limbic system, self esteem and well being. The main reason for this is
that you have mental issues you’ve learned to deal with. A woman comes along
who not only makes your dealing with those issues easier, but quells them
altogether. She makes you feel desirable to women, makes you feel like a good
lover, makes you feel like someone worthy of love. She leaves, BOOM, you aren’t
only missing her ability to quell these issues, but NOW have to learn to deal
with them and get used to them all over again. Realize this. Use a pain filled
break up as an opportunity to recognize and GET RID of these self esteem
problems. Don’t be a co- dependant, always defining who is important to you by
what gaps of yours they can fill (mind out of the gutter people), instead be a
complete person (self help jargon I know). Seek the permanent company of people
you WANT around you, not NEED around you. Eventually you don’t hurt anymore
this way.
15.6 Grief as a rebound. OFTEN when you don’t want a relationship to end and it
does anyway you will hold onto the pain as a means of not accepting it as
REALLY over. You fantasize about the other person crawling back begging to be
with you, because they’ve seen the error of their ways. Not a good idea, this
only prolongs things, focus on YOU and what she did to “complete you” that
needs to be complete on its own by your own rethinking of self esteem, goals
and ability to succeed. Remember YOU are physically the same now as before you
were ever hurting over this woman, only now you aren’t used to being you
anymore, you are used to being you AND her together. The electricity in that
brain of yours lies, true love is new love, not someone sticking around forever
in order to fill each others needs. Romance writers of old are responsible for
all the pain you’ve ever felt over lost love, remember monogamy and commitment,
even the word “love” are a 100th as old as man, while sex and short pair bonds
are timeless. No one ever killed themselves over losing a sex partner until
someone decided co-dependant relationships were some mystical bond that must
hurt when severed then told and wrote about it.
Just my thoughts on how to stay happy when it comes to love and relationships,
tested, used, and approved by me, myself and I. Once I’m complete emotionally
ill find an emotionally complete woman to attempt a permanent bond with. Til
then as temporary as possible sexual unions looks good to me.
16. WILLPOWER is all you need in life. As a rule try not to fantasize period,
fantasy is what tells your super ego that it has what it wants, because you
“id” knows it isn’t possible. To purposefully fantasize, visualize and imagine
things at length is to also tell the “id” that something isn’t possible. You
must have some slight visualization of anything to create initial desire, but
to actively fantasize will only cause you to see something as impossible in the
form of diminished willpower. ACTIONS are SPARKED by thoughts, not carried out
by them. Thoughts paralyse action after a while. My one life lesson, WILL to do
what YOU want in life is all you need.
RECAP:
Look YOUR best, see lone wolf, realize she loves sex, get sexually turned on
for her, approach her in sexual state, convey sexual state to her, get to know
her while in sexual state, watch for her sexual state, isolate.
Or even easier to remember, 1. be sexual, 2. watch for her sexual state, 3.
isolate. Those 3 things are all I take out into the field at a conscious level.
The rest has to be filled in to each specific encounter and takes a little
practice and time to get ingrained into you. I have seen it work the first run
out, by a fucked up looking guy. “Paralysis by analysis” can be deadly to the
willpower, so get on the ball, stop reading and take those 3 phrases, inside
your head, out in the field with you and get laid.
And remember "make the ho say no".
Gunwitch
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