mASF post by "Gunwitch187"
posted on: USENet: alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, September 9, 2002Disclaimer. Some of the following methods, tactics, and techniques could be
prosecutable as a crime in some jurisdictions. Check all local laws before
applying the content of this site to real life encounters with the opposite
sex.
For instance, touching someone can be a convictable offence in New York City.
Sex with women under the influence of intoxicants can also be illegal in most
jurisdictions.
Okay, so you wanna get laid more right? DUH else you wouldn't be here. Maybe
you are a fan of other works on seduction and discovered me through their
sites, or maybe this is your first venture into the methods of seduction. Maybe
you found me through the ASF (alt.seduction.fast) newsgroup, and you were one
of the guys who requested and demanded an outline, or more of a specific manual
of my style. Well anyway, you've now found my methods.
I'll tell you a little about myself, my name is Robert Ryan (known as
'gunwitch' on ASF). In case you wonder my name is derived from the fact that I
am an avid hand gunner as well as a 10-year practitioner and student of
seduction and PU (pick ups), "real" witchcraft, magik, state manipulation and
all ranges of the "influence" sphere. I started out using simple psychology,
then NLP (neural linguistic programming), and eventually evolved a much simpler
understanding of women and methods of dealing with them, which has been gained
through psychology and human study, but even more so through years of
interactive analysis.
What "simpler understanding" you may ask? Well after YEARS and YEARS of study,
fieldwork, and seductions, the thing that led me here was that I conquered my
weight problem. I am 5'7 (5'9'' in my "field" boots) and used to weigh a "power
lifter styled" mix of muscle and fat that was 240 lbs. Not a pretty picture to
look at, hence my study of seduction. I finally got down to a leaner, muscular
185lbs. This is when I noticed a massive change in dealing with women. They
made it easier - less testing, less flake outs, and less overall resistance to
my sexing them.
I had always been taught that it is not the product, but the marketing, that
gets someone to buy something. I had always learned that "it's what's on the
inside" that counts. Also, that "women think different from men", "women don't
really like sex so it doesn't matter what you look like, but more what you say
or make them feel". Comforting words to the unattractive guy, But not
something that produces results for the said guy.
Perhaps you're saying "but then what am I gonna do??? I'm an ugly, short or
fat fucker!" Well the same understandings and methods I discovered with the
understanding that women LOVE sex, just as much as men do is gonna be your key
to getting them as well. There are methods and tactics that will get you sex
with HOT women even if you are less than average in looks. The same methods I
and other semi attractive guys can use to land 8-10 scale women without hardly
any rejection can be used by you to land the same women with just a little more
effort, and a little more rejections.
I have trained men who were FAT, ugly, average and good looking to do the same
things I do and gotten them laid FAST without much study at all or any
improvement to their looks.
So give this a chance, if you wanna get laid.
Section 1:
The first understanding you must have, is what I mean when I refer to a
"state". I simply mean your state of mind, the feelings in your body, and the
overall YOU at any given moment. Can you recall a time, the last time that you
were totally HOT and HORNY for a woman - to the point you had an erection, felt
slight pain in your stomach, how you looked at her, and how you were thinking
at the moment. What did that feel like? You were in "sexual state" at that
point.
Section 2:
Women think VERY similarly, and operate biologically quite the same sexually
as men. Since biblical times, women have been conditioned by society that this
is wrong though. They put on a mask that conforms to social norms. The "slut"
"whore" or promiscuous woman who has many sexual partners is actually superior
in her lack of suggestibility compared to regular women who maintain monogamous
relationships because of societal expectations. Things had not been this way in
the human mating ritual prior to the last 2-5000 years. Beta (inferior less
attractive) males who happened to be intellectually superior set up
misogynistic arranged marriages, barter systems for financial ownership of
wives, religious persecution and moral persecution for women who enjoyed sex
with the alpha (superior more attractive) males, as a means of being able to
secure sex for themselves with no alpha competition.
Today, religion, moral conduct, and societal expectations cannot RULE the
female sex drive, nor her instincts and her desires by force. This leads us ALL
to a problem. Women seek and choose long term relationships with only the most
desirable of men. They often try to entrap the alpha male into unnatural sex
commitments, while giving the beta male no sex because they want to have one
partner, and do not want it to be a beta male. Kinda backfired on them cheeky
little shit heel betas didn't it?
Now women "cheat" when they want sexual variety and then are scorned by society
as "sluts" or "unfaithful bitches", despite the reality that it's just natural
for a sexually healthy human being to want variety in sex partners.
It is VITAL to have the understanding that women (sexually healthy non frigid
women) LOVE sex and desire it just as much as we do. YET they cannot come out
and admit it or be labelled a slut, AND cannot act on it with anyone's
knowledge or be labelled the same far faster. Of course, as of late, more and
more women are admitting their desire for sex more casually.
Section 3:
The lone wolf.
Approaching single, lone women will be the staple of you sexual diet.
Attempting to seduce women while in the company of others, her friends, your
friends, and other people in general is often a dumb idea. "WHY", you ask?
Read section 2 again. They want sex, they want sex NOW with almost any guy who
isn't obese or deformed, but they do not want the world to know, and they will
start to think "if I do this what will it make THEM think", rather than "do I
trust this guy" "am I attracted to this guy" and "what is he making ME feel
sexually". Reading this material from the standpoint of applying it at a party
or in front of 3 women at a time will make it seem unworkable. So read from
the perspective of you and a single lone (isolated) woman, or distanced from
others (semi isolated), and it will come into focus.
Section 4:
Your initial state when seeing women you want is very important: the right
one will cause you to approach them, the wrong one will panic and confuse you -
preventing you from taking any action to ever meet them. If you do not meet
them you almost certainly CANNOT have sex with them. Your internal state when
you first see an attractive woman must be one of sexual enthusiasm, horniness,
and unapologetic desire. NOT one of panic and wonder of what to do or what to
say. When you first see your lone wolf, in a bar, a coffee house, a dept store,
a bank, the gym -ANYWHERE - (I like the magazine racks at dept stores, where I
can stand there and wait 'til some Cosmo magazine reading hottie comes into
what feels to her like your space, and feels like she's approaching, then boom
I'm on it "so what ya reading?"), anyway ANYWHERE you see them you must imagine
having sex with her, visualize it, feel the desire and lust. ALWAYS do this as
soon as you see a woman you find attractive and eventually the state you will
go into when seeing a woman will be one of -sexual- state, rather than panic or
fear of meeting her. This makes approaching random lone women easier. Ted
Bundy, the infamous serial killer/sociopath didn't feel fear or panic when he
saw a target. He felt rage, sexual perversion and desire to kill, hence NO
fear to approach them, of course wanting to have sex isn't the same thing, but
its still more effective than feeling fear or confusion about your desires and
direction.
One thing ill mention here. I cannot give you real desire for sex, it must be
natural. If you could have a new ULTRA 10 hot bodied perfect woman in your bed
every night, yet EVERYONE else would see her as a nasty ugly fat girl, would
you still do it? NO I'm not gonna alter you in some supernatural way for you to
think ugly women are good looking. If you said "no" to this question though,
you need to evaluate if you want women for shared sexual gratifications, or if
you want them to impress friends, family and co workers? Do you wanna be a
"ladies man" A "seduction master?" the "scoring machine" amongst your buds? Of
course, who doesn't? But is that more of a concern than actually having good
sex with women you find attractive? If so then you need to A. stop masturbating
so much (to increase you drive), B search yourself to see if you are a real
heterosexual, C maybe consider getting an "armpiece" girlfriend for the social
status you desire, D learn to quench your lusts with sexual gratification
rather than keep trying to create envy in others, as you'll never be convinced
you've done enough of that. If you want and desire new, exciting, frequent
sexual experiences with different fresh women then read on.
Section 5:
Understand that women do not have some kind of special intuition about people,
see Ted Bundy example above for proof. A lot of crap floats around about
female minds being different or more intuitive, "they can smell an agenda" "if
you don't come from a genuine place of curiosity and care they will reject you"
blah blah blah. You WANT them to "smell your agenda" of wanting sex, this is a
GOOD thing, as long as it isn't verbalized. This is what women call a "subtle
confident man". I will discuss how to MAKE her understand your intentions
WITHOUT words later on. It is a good thing for her to know you want sex,
without you being tacky and verbalizing it (making her reject you because of
her societal conditioning mentioned earlier).
Section 6:
Looks count, though perhaps not as much as is typically presumed. As was
discussed in Section 2, women think MUCH like men when it comes to mating.
To illustrate:
Imagine being alone in a room, with an ugly or mediocre woman. She comes over
and lays her head on your lap. You hear her whisper, "I like you a lot". She
smiles, comes up, and kisses you. Your friends are not there, and they will
never know. You are getting more turned on as she rubs your upper legs,
inching closer, closer, and closer to your crotch. What are you gonna do to
stop her? Answer this only to yourself - not to friends or people who could
judge you - and you'll know that you'd likely have sex with her. ONLY in the
case that she is nearly deformed, smells bad, or is morbidly obese ect., would
you be likely to turn her down. Essentially, you'd only turn her down if she
failed turn you on at that time.
To further explicate, consider the following. Not an exact science by any
means, but perhaps a rough model of what you can generally expect.
Looks, Effort, and their Interrelation:
Looks scale: -1- being the worst conceivable, and -10- being the best.
Effort scale (amount of women approached): -1- being utterly rarely, -5- being
a few on weekends or acquaintances from social circles, and -10- being at least
three new women per day.
Take a guy who is a -1- in looks (perhaps fat, short, hideous face, balding,
old, smelly, poorly dressed, etc.), but a -10- in effort. This guy will STILL
land women who are -5.5s- once in while, and -3s- frequently.
To explain, allocate 1 total point for every 2 points on the scale, for what
you can get with maximum effort. So, if you are a -10- in looks, but only
exert a -1- in effort, you can probably still sex -5.5s- (ie. 11 divided by 2)
on occasion, and approximately half of that, or -3s-, whenever you are
inclined. Eventually you will arrive at someplace in between your -maximum-
capacity and your -easy- capacity for your regular quality of women.
I, for instance, am maybe an -8- in looks (short, ok face, good built body,
well dressed and groomed), and a -10- in effort. So dividing by two, we
allocate 4 points for looks and 5 points for effort, arriving at a 9 at
-maximum- capacity, and approx. 5 at -easy- capacity. I have of course gotten
some 10s in my day, but that's just the deviation, as women higher than 6 would
be for Example Guy #1. So to recap:
Example Guy 1:
-1-LOOKS + -10-EFFORT = 11,
THEREFORE,
MAXIMUM CAPACITY = 5.5, EASY CAPACITY = approx. 3
Gunwitch:
-8-LOOKS + -10-EFFORT = 18,
THEREFORE,
MAXIMUM CAPACITY = 9, EASY CAPACITY = approx. 5
What creates the extra points from effort is that you meet MORE women, so SOME
of these women will find even the guy with -1-looks/-10-effort somewhat
attractive. Probably the best that he will ever do is a 6 who somehow finds him
attractive. Mr -10-looks/-1-effort could go out approaching at a 5.5 in effort
and change his whole lot, because he would meet so many more women who would
find him attractive, but instead he takes the easy ones. His loss. By the way,
Mr.-10-looks/-1-effort, and Mr. -1-looks/-10-effort are both REAL people that I
know, and it works out about the same for both of them with women. If Mr.
-1-looks/-10-effort suddenly stopped meeting and trying to seduce new women, he
would probably go to his grave never having had sex again, unless maybe with
some chance woman of his low calibre were to come along and make the effort
herself.
Section 7
There are -many- ideas about seduction, getting laid, having a lot of women,
ect, that can be debated and contested. But there is -one- that cannot be by
anyone with any rational thought process. You MUST make an effort.
Specifically, you must approach women on the street, at gyms, dept stores,
bars, nightclubs and any other venues you can come up with. Sure you can get a
job working with women or a gimmick to try to attract them to you, but its 5%
as effective as actually doing the work, and having the will and drive. Simple
logic, which can escape from you if you over-complicate your style of dealing
with women. Don't just sit and memorize materials til the end of time, get out
and apply things you learn. HARDEST part to do in any area of life. WILLPOWER
to try is more important than any formula for success.
I'm gonna do you a huge favor right here in this section. Maybe give you
ultimate success with women maybe save you from reading any further and wasting
your time. Decide will you A, go out and try this stuff on AT LEAST 1 woman
within the next week, and at least 1 every week after that? OR, will you stop
reading now and decide you don't really have the willpower to try?
Of course if you KNOW you are just reading this for the hell of it, and don't
wanna have sex with lots of women that's fine. But don't read it, question it,
analyze it and determine it can't work for you, get up and do something
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