mASF post by "Brian R. Wilcox"
posted on: USENet: alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, December 12, 1996
I’m not worthy, I’m not worthy of being in your presence O great Guru,
This post is written to share some of what I've learned in a way that
it can be useful to the general NLP/hypnosis community, as well as the
SS enthusiast. Recently, I’ve been listening to Rosses’ Advanced
Masters Seduction weekend. This is a shocker for people who know me.
I have been a student of DHE, NLP and hypnosis for over 10 years. I’ve
done practitioners, master practitioners and advanced trainings with
Bandler, Grinder, Dilts, Dave Dobson, Rex Sikes, Carmine Baffa, John
Lavalle and many others. Recently, Tony Scannella (an NLP trainer who
has cotrained with Robert Dilts & Jeffrey Zeig) asked me to cotrain his
Ericksonian hypnosis classes. Thus, I thought what is Ross gonna teach
me about NLP and hypnosis.
When it comes to picking up girls I was as cocky as you can get. My
recent history includes dating 3 strippers. My last two long-term
girlfriends (dated simultaneously) were an exotic dancer at
Stringfellows/Tens cabaret (NY City’s most exclusive club) and a gal
who many people have told me is the most beautiful women they’ve ever
seen. I thought I knew every trick in the book and then some. Before
listening to these tapes I already had an attitude that I could get
lucky with any gal. I even told Rex Sikes that the real challenge for
me is not SS’ing all the time and that girls hitting on me was slowing
me down when I wanted to get things done.
My first exposure to Ross came several years ago when I saw his book. I
thought it was a piece of shit. Then I saw his video with the
strippers and thought I know practitioners with more skill than that.
Despite the fact that I thought these products were shit, I respected
certain qualities that Ross showed and I think other people, especially
NLP’ers could learn much from Ross. Ross uses NLP to make money, Ross
is great at marketing, Ross applies everything he learns, Ross has
mastered the attitude part of NLP, he takes action, he is flexible, he
has brass balls. A little over a year ago, Ross took a DHE training
with a friend of mine. I asked my friend about Ross. I was mainly
wondering how trustworthy he is. My friend told me that Ross is
sincerely interested in mastering these skills and he does master them.
Ross is passionate about what he does and he is always searching for
ways to push the envelope and improve upon what he already does well.
Ross cares about people.
Fortunately, I decided to open my mind and give Ross another chance.
When someone gave me the Advance Seduction Masters weekend tapes I
decided to listen to them just for entertainment. These tapes are
entertaining, funny, and most of all these tapes give you what you need
to get the results you want. Very quickly, Ross takes the art of
seduction to new levels. He is a true master, a seduction genius.
Rosses’ students, especially Glenn and Mark are amazing. I suddenly
became aware of many of the things I do that enable me to seduce women.
More importantly, I quickly found myself learning entirely new ways of
picking up women. Rosses’ language patterns for women are brilliant
and they work. He has answers for every situation.
For example, Ross teaches a “card trick” that you can use so that
people will call you again. This involves telling a women that at
sometime during the next week you’ll find yourself thinking about
something (<=intentionally vague) because of the conversation we are
having, and you’ll think to yourself, I want to talk to this guy
(gesture to yourself) and you’ll want to call me and when you do (take
out your card and place it about 12 inches in front of her eyes and
point to your name) and here is where you will remember my number.
"By the way, in addition to being an incredibly workable, intelligent
application of hypnosis and persuasive language, Ross and his
co-teachers are HILARIOUSLY funny and very entertaining. That's not
required but it sure helps when you are learning new material!
Listening to the teaching tales on these tapes makes me feel like I’m
hanging out having an outrageously good time with my best friends. As
a matter of fact, a friend told me that it is like Ross is that wise
older brother, or best friend that you always wished for that person
who is giving you the secrets to life, and the answers to life’s
greatest mysteries.
I am recommending these tapes not only to my friends who are interested
in scoring babes, but also to people who couldn’t give a rat’s ass
about picking up chicks because WHAT ROSS REALLY TEACHES is the power
of capturing and leading people's imagination, a skill that can bring
benefits in every area of life. For example, as an Ironman triathlete,
I use these techniques on myself to put my self in state while I am
competing. I am telling all my friends that the best thing that you
can do for yourself is convince yourself to get these tapes now because
these tapes will benefit every area of your life.
Tony Robbins used to use a firewalk as a metaphor for turning fear into
power and a belief that you can do anything. I think these SS tapes
can do the same thing. Even if you choose not to SS women, just
imagine the personal power you’ll possess when you have the skills to
capture peoples imagination and lead them into the most exquisite
states of excellence. I use SS to make my sick grandmother feel
better. As an attorney, I use these states to relax witnesses, help
juries empathize with my clients and more, I use these skills all the
time in my personal life. My mother, a teacher uses these states to
install motivation in her students. If you’re a salesperson just
imagine what these states can do for your income.
If you are a serious student of NLP or hypnosis, I would get these
tapes. If you present in front of groups, you can learn training
skills from Ross. These tapes are excellent for polishing skills!.
Ross cuts out the B.S. and clearly, easily simplifies the processes as
he teaches you what gets results in a way that empowers you to go out
and use the skills. Ross fires you up in a way that makes it fun to
apply these skills that you learn. Ross even uses elements of DHE and
other leading edge NLP applications. The skills and attitude that Ross
teaches is useful in every area of life.
These tapes are especially useful for persuasion and sales. The
attitude of installing exquisite states in other people is a great way
to think whether you’re talking to a gal, or a guy. I think it is
especially useful for couples and long-term relationships. Ross
teaches you how to create states that are useful and manage these
states to get what you most want in life.
An example of one of the many ways that Ross does this is by creating
an internal control system (kind of like a stereo equalizer). He has
people pick several states ie party, clarity, thouroughness,
ferociousness. Then he has people use enter each state ie first enter
party, anchor it (sliding anchor), then clarity, etc. Then he has
people experiment with layering the states ie clarity and party. Then
he teaches people to control the intensity of each state and discover
your personal optimum combination for achieving your goal.
The best holiday gift you can give to yourself are these tapes. Just
imagine what you can do when you have the skills to do what you’ve
always wanted. And Ross, thank you for the wonderful gift of these
tapes.
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