mASF post by "educ"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, June 6, 2005All women want to have sex with you only when they like you enough. They do not
have sex with strangers, and if they do, they are not normal. This is what I've
been socially taught all my life, and this used to be my reality. Still is.
The answer to the topic might be no, unless you do not want sex. Anyway, this
post is about personal experiences with women in situations where they've
advanced much faster than AFC me would expect.
The worst part of this is that the girls have not been willing to be around me
afterwards. Can this happen just because I've not been looking like willing to
have sex with them? Even if the vibe was otherwise good.
I feel like I am missing some piece of the puzzle. Please read off the examples
and tell me what you think.
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Situation 1:
Friend of a friend, HB9.5 who has a boyfriend. We spent two days on same place
(group of friends) where we got to meet up more closely. I am not trying to
pick her up, but we had good time, she seemed to be really open-minded to guys,
not the usual stuff girls who have a boyfriend to. She was sitting on my lap,
having good long EC, and so on. I felt a bit AMOG'ed by one friend and acted
quite beta.
First night we went sleep in same room (4 people). Eventually only me and HB
were awake, and she started talking about her breast size, and how she has
problems with her boyfriend... the discussion went really well, but after some
time when I THOUGHT the discussion was going to drop a bit I tried to keep up
my ego and said something like "its time to sleep, lets talk tomorrow". I
thought I wasn't alpha enough, and logistics wasnt on my side.... this is why I
decided to do this.
Next day she was A LOT colder towards me, we did not spend that much time, she
was kinoing other guys and eventually had very intensive kino (BUT NO SEX,
logistics....) with some other guy. The change towards me from last evening was
significant. I ended up having fun with other girls.
QUESTION: Didn't I act enough alpha, OR was it because I kinda of shot her down
that evening.
Was she willing to have fun time with me, talk me all the night, get to sexual
talk and eventually have SEX that night? How do you see this? What shot her
down?
I will meet her again within couple of months, is the game totally lost in this
case?
Situation 2:
Met one girl (HB9) who surprised me by asking what I am doing that evening
(when we first met, and just had some chit chat, then she came talk to me
later). Me, as an myself, answered the thing I HAD PLANNED TO DO that
evening... and that was something else than fucking her. Oh oh, and in one
second I knew it was the wrong answer.
Met her four months ago, and she gave me her telephone number by writing it on
a paper. Wrote something sexual behind that too. Called her twice, but she was
busy both times, seemed flaking to me and I forgot her to two more months
(speed seduction», lol :)
After those months we saw again, I called her next day talking about some shit
not planning about meeting. When I was at one other HB's place, she called me
at 11PM asking what I am doing.... we had a five-minute convo just
chit-chatting, but nothing else cause I was busy that time. After one week we
called to each other again, setting up a meeting to one beautiful park at 11PM.
She gave the vibe that she was coming with her friends, but she was alone.
We had wonderful time there, convo was going on all the time. Had some light
kino, but she did not answer to the kino... being not that persistent we just
had fun time but did not do makeouts etc. At 2AM I was like I will throw her
home (she lives with a roommate), but she wanted to walk... I was actually
really really tired and had to wake up morning, and I thought we will meet
later, so I did not ask her for my apartment... wonder if she would have been
willing to come. Anyway, she was truly sad about that I was going.
But then again, in couple next days she too was A LOT COLDER against me, not
answering my phone calls (two of them), and when we saw each other (by
coincidence) she was really different than before, being more receptive on
other guys and ignoring me.
Situation 3:
I wrote a post about this girl on mASF. Met she in a bar, she was horny like a
hell, had a makeout in 10mins from meeting without almost any talking at all.
She left to bathroom with her friend telling me lets meet soon, I asked for her
phone and left. I saw her in the bar again in the bar, but kinda got stalled
and did not talk. I do not know whether she saw me or did not saw me.
SMS'ed her three days ago, and she was totally cold. Responded, but in a
totally cold way. We exchanged a couple of sms's, I was setting up a day two
but she (told?) she was out of the city (?). I did not sms or call her anymore.
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Now, these are the most obvious examples of what has happened. But I am still
very confused about these responses. What I've read from ASF, and what should
be true is that women are willing to hang out with you in the future if they
have good time with you.... even if you do not have sex at the first meeting,
right?
Even if they wanted sex, they did not proceed or give obvious signals for that.
I feel like proceeding only if they are really really really seeming to want
sex.
Only good part about those is that I was approached by the girl in all of those
situations. I get approached occasionally, but still I do not open many (very
rare) sets by myself. Will rocket when I got myself in the mood of opening 'em
:)
That's it.
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