mASF post by "Design"
posted on: mASF forum: General Discussion newsgroup, May 5, 2005On 5/12/05 11:08:00 AM, CNoyes wrote:
>I'm curious if the techniques
>that are explained in the
>player guide have been
>'tested.' What evidence is
>there that the techniques such
>as mirroring, eliciting
>values, trance words,
>patterning, etc. don't just
>have the placebo effect of
>getting you to approach?
Those techniques are basically out-dated, although some of them do have some
value. Unless Ross decides to chime in, don't expect many responses defending
these things.
>75 women in 500 approaches? If
>those are success rates to be
>expected with patterning, etc.
>I might as well just walk up
>to 500 girls and say, "Nice
>shoes, wanna fuck?" and
>probably get similar results.
75 in 500? That turns out to be a lay for every six or so approaches. Sounds
pretty good if you ask me. If you can get laid every six approaches, you
should be pulling more or less every night. In any case, with all due respect
to Gunwitch, his numbers are unreliable.
>And honestly, if I can whip
>this problem of not getting
>off my ass and approaching,
>I'm sure I could do better
>than that before reading
>anything on this site.
Then whip the problem and start approaching.
>So I am also curious what
>peoples success rates are,
>what techniques they use, and
>how long they've been at it.
>
>Guys, please don't take this
>post the wrong way; as an
>attack or any kind of insult,
>because it's not. I just want
>to know which techniques have
>been proven with numbers. (Not
>just a LR here or there.)
The proven techniques? To my the best of my knowledge...
-Mystery Method
-RSD
-Badboy
-Juggler
-Gunwitch (there is some debate here)
-Speed Seduction» (there is lots of debate here)
(I would add RSI's but from what I understand, his approach can be viewed as a
variation of BadBoy and Juggler...Woodhaven or Dimitri can correct me if I'm
wrong.)
All of which is to say, basically every major school you'll find here can work.
What you need to do is find something that appeals to you and then field test
it and examine your own results.
Design
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