mASF post by "Michael Snyder"
posted on: USENet: alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, July 7, 2000
Tony,
What will it cost you to operate Layguide.com?
If it's less than $100 a month, I will pay for it myself if you'll
keep the site free.
Michael
Anton Klink wrote in message ...
>
>
>I'll get right down to business:
>
>* starting July 10, the new address of LayGuideis http://www.layguide.com
>
>* starting July 10, I'll be registerig free lifetime memberships of
>authors featured in LayGuideand select 6 months free memberships of other
>users of ASF and LayGuideas from now on - LayGuidewill be "members
>only".
>
>a few reasons for going members only:
>
>I'll be finishing school and my old account will be cancelled shortly, so
>I needed to find a new host. I opted for a separate domain name of
>www.layguide.com (for added ease of use, no more pieces of paper to write
>it down, no need to bookmark) and US-based commercial hosting (US for
>faster retrieval of HTML documents, commercial to not have ads cluttering
>up the display and bogging down the connection). but whenever quality is
>in mind, there are costs involved. I never intended LayGuideto be a
>commercial project, but neither did I ever intend to be financing it out
>of my own pocket.
>
>so why memberships instead of banners to cover the costs involved? I was
>torn between the two for quite some time.
>
>but on one hand - adding banners would make everyone pay. including the
>various authors featured in LayGuidewhile out of all people, they are
>the ones who should not be made to pay anyting at all. and I am not simply
>talking about screen and mind pollution the ad banners would create, I am
>also talking about time wasted while waiting for whatever banners I would
>have opted for to load, I am also talking about increased session times
>and higher internet access fees due to those pesky banners crawling
>through the modem.
>
>and on the other hand - with all the ripping off of layguideall over the
>net (on "hundreds of adult sites", like one reader said), some redesigning
>it and charging a membership fee, others not even bothering with that and
>simply lifting the whole thing, some fiercly claiming it to be their own,
>others ignoring all attempts to make contact with them, and some ripping
>people off in chatrooms by selling the whole package plus the
>"copyrights" to it for almost astronomical sums (people, I'm talking
>thousands of dollars here)... no, it was not the ripping off that bothered
>me. it was the fact that updating the guide wasn't fun any more. it was
>the thought that every new update will be copied and sold in an unknown
>amount of pirate websites, every update will be added to a phony
>"copyrights included" package sold through chatrooms... and as updating
>didn't seem like fun any more, naturally I didn't do much updating any
>more. but that just ain't right.
>
>so the need to change hosts was the perfect time to make a choice on how
>LayGuide was to proceed, and the need to cover costs and have at least
>_some_ sort of control over who will and who will not have access to
>LayGuide and all its future updates finally lead to this - from now on,
>LayGuide will be a members only site, the membership of which can either
>be obtained by being an author of something featured in LayGuideor by
>paying the membership fee (plus a special six months free membership offer
>to all readers of ASF and the old LayGuidefor one week starting July 10,
>more about that in a moment).
>
>
>* applying for an account
>
>- applying for free lifetime access as an author
>
>starting July 10, I'll be registering FREE LIFETIME MEMBERSHIPS (meaning
>completely unlimited and indefinate access to the whole LayGuideand all
>its future updates) of people, whose texts, featured somewhere in
>LayGuide,
>
> - constitute or present at least one original idea/suggestion/strategy
> - consist of more than two or three sentences of commentary
> - are copyrighted by those people.
>
>thus contributors of jokes and pick-up lines-(because the actual holders
>of copyright to such forms of intellectual property are nigh impossible to
>ascertain) or a few lines of commentary (which although certainly
>copyrighted, are better rephrased or removed than traded for a lifetime
>free membership;) needn't apply under this section. however, neither will
>they be left out in the cold - their chance will be explained shortly as
>well.
>
>so an example list of who I have in mind when I talk about lifetime free
>access eligibility would look something like this: Jake Thomson, Maniac
>High, Odious, Nathan Szilard, NYC, Mystery, Clifford, Formhandle (though
>not an author, but an important insider nevertheless:) etc etc, you get
>the picture.
>
>a few things to keep in mind:
>
> - as an author, you are entitled to apply for your free lifetime
>membership any time you wish. however, as I'll be going on a vacation
>shortly after July 17, it'd be wise for you to apply before that, unless
>you don't mind waiting until some time in August for a next chance to
>regain access to LayGuide>
> - also, if you feel at all uncomfortable with these new
>arrangements, you can waive your right to the free lifetime membership and
>ask me to stop using your copyrighted material as part of the members-only
>section of LayGuideleaving me to choose between rephrasing your material
>(thus removing your copyrighted material from LayGuidealtogether) or a
>transferral of your material from the members-only section to the publicly
>and freely available section of LayGuidein this case you can then apply
>for a membership at LayGuidevia standard means if you wish.
>
> - also, applying for a free lifetime membership at LayGuideas an
>author will in no way change the status of copyright ownership of your
>texts and materials featured in LayGuideyou will always remain the
>holder of those copyrights and LayGuidewill in no way receive those
>copyrights.
>
>that sounded a bit lawyery, but I felt it was necessary as the rules are a
>little different now:)
>
>so in short: you can apply any time you wish (although I'll be gone for a
>while after July 17), or if these new arrangements feel uncomfortable for
>you, you can waive your right for a lifetime free access that an
>authorship in LayGuidewould otherwise have entitled you to.
>
>about the applying itself: just state the username and password you would
>like to use with LayGuidein the future, your name as an author featured
>in LayGuidein case it isn't already obvious from your e-mail address, and
>I'll bet back to you as soon as possible. I'll be registering free
>lifetime author accounts all week from July 10 to July 17, but as my net
>access is limited, please allow for a 24h waiting period.
>
>
>- applying for a free 6 months access as a reader of the old LayGuide>
>from July 10 up until July 16, I will be accepting applications for free 6
>months memberships to LayGuidefrom people, who have nothing of their own
>origin in LayGuidebut have nevertheless found it to be a useful source
>of seduction related information and wish for that source to remain open
>for them for free until at least January 2001.
>
>NB! The application time is only limited to one week!
>
>the reasoning behind this is to let anyone, who frequents either the site
>or ASF at least once a week, have a chance to apply. a shorter period
>would be unfair to those checking ASF, LayGuideor any other source this
>information may be published in only on a certain weekday, which can be
>very common. a longer period however might pull in too many random traffic
>and gold-diggers, trying their luck while never even having heard of
>LayGuide before. but to verify nevertheless, that you are indeed not a
>last-minute scrambler but have actually been truly reading and enjoying
>LayGuide in the past, the application itself should be a user comment
>about layguidemore details will follow.
>
>"what does getting that free 6 months account depend on?" getting that
>free account depends on:
>
> - how many applications I will have received by July 17. if I only
>get a few dozen requests, your application is almost 100% certain to
>receive a positive answer. if however I get swamped by requests, your
>chances might plummet, unless your user comment stands out. which brings
>us to the next thing your getting the free account depends on.
>
> - the quality of your user comment. "great site, love it, now
>where's that account?!" might even get you the free account if I only
>recieve a few requests (although such a comment is also quite likely to
>make my "random surfer" alarm go off). if however, once again, I find
>myself in a swarm of requests by July 17, things might not be looking so
>good any more. which is why I'd advise to go a little more in-depth in
>your user comment, to elaborate on how and what exactly layguidehas
>changed for you, in what way have you found it to be of use etc. and if I
>find your user comment interesting enough to even add it to the new User
>Comments page of LayGuide.com - the free account is yours.
>
> - if you have also written to me before, you have a chance to
>ABSOLUTLEY MAXIMIZE YOUR CHANCES of getting that free 6 months account. if
>you've ever written in a user comment before, sent me a contribution, or
>materials, that although you were not an author of and/or were not added
>to layguidestill somehow showed your commitment to making layguidea
>better and more complete database of seduction information, BE SURE TO
>MENTION THAT at the end of your user comment - and you've just quadrupled
>your chances (but better not tell me you've written in in the past if you
>haven't as I'll be verifying each claim before responding).
>
>however, once again - this all applies ONLY to applications sent on July
>16 the latest!
>
>all later applications will be disregarded. and during that one week
>application period I will not be answering any 6 months free account
>applicants - I'll be doing that on July 17, when the application period is
>over, all the applications are in and I already know the general quantity
>and quality of applications I will need to be making my choices from.
>
>so starting July 17, I will be answering all applications, both the
>accepted and unaccepted ones. if your application is accepted and you
>supplied the username and password you'd like to be using with LayGuide>with your initial application, you will receive confirmation of your
>username and password having been activated at LayGuide.com. if you don't
>want to supply the preferred username/password you'd like to use with
>LayGuide with your initial application, I'll be assigning you a generic
>username/password (the password can be changed though).
>
>the senders of unaccepted applications will receive a suggestion to join
>LayGuide via standard means:)
>
>
>so enjoy, and may your summers be filled with gorgeous women:)
>
>tony
>
>LayGuide, the How to Lay Girls Guide at http://www.layguide.com
>
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