mASF post by "arctic_joe"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, August 8, 2005Hello thrillseeker,
The recent reports you've been posting are nothing short of inspirational
man, not only are you opening sets are crazy but you've got the drive and
spirit to get where you want.
Even more so that you decided to go with the flow rather than use
routines. Respect. I dug up your old posts and remember you saying that
you had trouble keeping the chick's attention, and now look where you
are. Talking out your ass, hmm..
I'm still stuck on routines, and this "talk about bullshit" is what I'm
aiming at right now. Do you have any tips you can share? I think this
will really help me understand the game a little more.
Keep us posted on your journey.
On 7/30/05 1:39:00 PM, thrillseeker wrote:
>I am very pleased with myself.
>I am getting it.
>
>I decided last night to focus
>more on the flow of the
>interaction. I made a shift
>from being material-based, to
>being vibe-based. It worked
>tremendously.
>
>My first set kicked my ass. I
>rolled in and was instantly
>bombarded with shit-tests.
>Like, rapid-fire, bang bang
>bang, hardly a breath in
>between them. Why are you
>asking that what's up with
>this shirt this arm thing why
>are you wearing your glasses
>where are your friends..." I
>should have cut off their
>threads and plowed, but I
>didn't see this coming. I was
>floored. Turns out they're New
>Yorkers. Ha. I was in over my
>head. That makes me not feel
>bad. I'll be more prepared
>next time. As always when I'm
>getting a seriously hard time
>from girls, I had to struggle
>to keep a strait face, and I
>failed.
>
>I remembered this little trick
>that I posted about a few
>dozen times months and months
>ago. Something I learned in an
>acting class. I'd walk around
>and LOOK at stuff, just
>mentally noting, "You're
>holding a drink. You're
>wearing a white shirt. You
>look concerned." This fixes my
>BL and eyes, so that I look
>around in a very natural way,
>where my eyes settle on
>whatever I notice. I'm not
>afraid to look, at anything or
>anyone, but at the same time I
>don't stare or anything. This
>projects total absolute 100%
>confidence.
>
>My BL became really smooth. My motions
>were slow. Turned my head slowly, my
>body. Carried myself with 100%
>confidence. I actually got this down at
>least half a year ago. I wrote about it
>in my field reports where I went to this
>dance club and got girls molesting me
>and opening me and making out with me
>based purely on BL. Problem was, at the
>time I didn't have the verbal game to
>back this up, so I got away from it as I
>focused on the verbal, and forgot about
>it until now.
>
>I started opening with what's up, how's
>it going, etc. And then I'd go into game
>as usual. I actually had a lot more
>success with this than with opinion
>openers, I guess cause I was more
>congruent with it. Plus, I was able to
>use my subcommunication to FORCE them to
>open. Like, they seriously had no choice
>but to open and want to talk to me. I
>really can't explain how I do this. It's
>BL/facial expression/eye movements.
>
>But now I'm starting to integrate the BL
>with the verbal, and the results are
>fucking incredible.
>
>I've developed the ability to talk out
>my ass, which I think is an
>indespensible PU skill. Cause you have
>to keep talking. And you can't rely
>purely on material. You will always run
>out. But it's not the words anyway. It's
>in the nonverbals, but you need to fill
>the airwaves with words, to provide a
>vehicle for the nonverbal communication
>to piggy-back on. Cause if you're not
>talking, there is no communication, the
>girl will get uncomfortable and leave.
>
>So the answer is to talk about bullshit.
>"OMG, do you guys remember the 80's? I
>was at this club and it was 80's night.
>It was awful. I mean I SURVIVED the
>80s..." I had this one set commenting on
>this. Maybe they were trying to shake
>themselves out of state or something,
>cause they were totally transfixed with
>me. I have not seen that kind of
>interest before. Intermittent giggling
>for no reason whatsoever, all smiles,
>leaning in, hanging on my every word.
>They'd give me a hard time, say they're
>going to leave or whatever, so I get all
>huffy and turn my back and stay turned
>for a while. Eventually I turn back, and
>they haven't moved an inch. They're
>still standing there staring at me.
>
>I talked to them several different
>times. They were always like "it's a
>small club, we'll see you in a little
>while." I always did. And they were
>transfixed with me every time.
>
>My AFC wing was pissed cause they were
>all up on my ass. I was trying to focus
>only on my target, so he'd have a chance
>with the other one. I tried to drag my
>target away so I could get a drink of
>water. They wouldn't let me. The
>obstacle kept leaning in and listening
>to me.
>
>My target was refusing to give up her #,
>even though they obviously both liked me
>A LOT. I think the obstacle liked me,
>and my target didn't want to upset her
>or something.
>
>I told my wing this, and he said no way,
>I need to get better at reading women.
>WTF??? OMG, AFCs are so fucking
>deluded!!!
>
>Funny thing was, earlier they were
>girl-coding each other over my shoulder,
>and I was like, "WTF, you guys are
>girl-coding each other, aren't you?
>Aren't you? What did I tell you about
>that?" (I had run best friends test
>earlier.) A minute later, guess what
>happened! "Let's go dance!" HA! I so
>called that! And I told her so and I
>gloated.
>
>I was trying to drag my chick off to the
>bar so I could get water, but the
>obstacle wouldn't let me. She was like,
>"I thought you were going to get water."
>I said "I thought you guys were going to
>go dance," and I backturned on them. No
>one went anywhere. So started babbling
>about shit again.
>
>Other points of note: I kino tested my
>target. I tried to spin-hug her, but
>she wouldn't move, despite the fact that
>she seemed totally interested in me and
>showed no signs of wanting to go
>anywhere. Ok. She needs more gaming.
>I leaned back on the table, started
>babbling about shit, went into some
>rapport-type convo. Later, I checked
>again. Made her put her hands on top of
>mine, trust test style. She passed. (I
>didn't say I was doing the trust test or
>anything, I just did it.) Nice.
>
>At one point, I don't know how it came
>up, but she was actually talking about
>the fact that we were totally
>communicating non-verbally. So I
>launched into some kind of incredible
>connection style shit. She totally
>called me on talking out my ass and I
>had to concede. It was actually funny
>though.
>
>My wing spent the entire rest of the
>night freaking out cause he wanted to
>find his target/my obstacle again.
>(Though he already had gotten her #.) I
>even flipped out at one point and was
>like, "Dude, this headspace you are in
>is totally fucked and you will never get
>any woman if you cannot stop stressing
>and chill the fuck out!!!" He was all
>like, "I'm not stressing, I'm chill, I
>just think it sucks that I couldn't find
>her." I mean he would not get off it.
>
>He said I was being a lousy wing for
>cockblocking him, so I was like, ok, I'm
>at your disposal. What do you want me to
>do? He wanted me to open and then back
>off. Cool. No prob. So I rolled in on
>this 3set of cute chicks dancing in a
>corner. It was going great. I was like,
>"Check it out, this dude fucking rocks,
>and it's his birthday." And they greeted
>him warmly. So I backed off to let him
>have the floor. He stood there, saying
>nothing, and stared at them like a
>fucking weirdo. I was like, "What
>happened, dude?" He said he "wasn't
>feeling it." Nice.
>
>I did this one set, peeled my target, an
>adorably and fuckably cute 18 yr old,
>off her friend, got her sitting with me
>in the corner, her leg draped over mine.
>She was hooked, I qualified her, and I
>got her #. I was going to try to get
>into deeper rapport, but I had to run
>off to help my dumbass wing, and didn't
>talk to her again.
>
>So these were the only two sets I really
>did for real. Course I talked to and was
>opened by chicks beside that. I got 2
>numbers, both from really cute girls who
>I liked. For one of the first times, I
>felt like I really made a connection. It
>was wild. I could have pushed myself
>harder and gotten more numbers, because
>I was on fire. But I didn't really even
>want to. I was getting that synthetic
>one-itis Jlaix talks about, and it was
>emotionally draining.
>
>So much drama and intense emotions! I
>couldn't take it. But I loved it. Ever
>smoked some really killer KB and you
>feel like you're at one with the
>universe and the essence of the universe
>love? I felt like that during the car
>ride home.
>
>It was a good night.
>
>Girls are my anti-drug.
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