mASF post by "Paraiso"
posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, May 5, 2005On 5/19/05 9:49:00 AM, Dimitri wrote:
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>I disagree here. I've been wiling out
>lately, and had another new girl last
>night. Virgin.
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>She was *very* into me, but she didn't
>know how the whole sex thing really
>worked yet. She needed no more
>attraction. Just some gentle leading and
>reassurance.
True, this is a special circumstance I rarely ever encounter. They are so rare
these days. Especially within the women I come in contact with which are
anywhere between 23-35.
>Not a bad frame. How many women have you
>slept with?
A few. I do alright. Currently dating a girl from Turkey and just finished
spending a week in Miami with an Italian girl I met on a plane on my way back
from Amsterdam. What's funny is that I got together with this Italian girl
after having read Woodhaven's posts. One thing that really stuck with me was
what he said about including girls in your romance novel.
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>I used to like the whole "challenge"
>idea myself, but more and more I find
>myself drawn to a more natural form of
>game. I don't like artificially
>presenting myself as a challenge... I'm
>naturally a challenge since I'm such a
>great guy with so many women after me...
>That's my attitude. As for sex, if I
>actually, genuinely like a girl, and
>we've touched and kissed and gotten to
>know each other and spent time together,
>why wouldn't I want to sleep with her?
>It's a mutual reward and a totally
>natural thing.
What I was suggesting wasn't artificial. Carrying yourself like a real man is
enough for her to understand what I'm about. Taking that into consideration
rushed sex or LMR beating is not my cup of tea. Not because I can't but
because I choose not to. Not satisfying to me. I think when you operate at a
level where you're not outcome dependent you tend to enjoy the bubbling up of
anticipation that much more. The sex for me is a lot more satisfying when you
want her so bad that you tear eachother up when you finally get together.
>>It's
>>up to you to make her willing
>>and wanting and you should
>>never let it go as far as her
>>having LMR. Be challenging and
>>smooth. This is where
>>experience and finesse meet
>>seduction.
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>Agreed. Woodhaven never gets LMR,
>because he's so solid and smooth. He has
>the best conversion rates in all
>departments of everyone I've ever seen.
Yeah. I really enjoy reading his recent posts. It's very nice to see a guy
being succesful using a direct approach elegantly.
>>Now take the Korean girl from
>>your example. She was
>>attracted to you but I think
>>you could have been smoother
>>and taken your time and not
>>rushed the lay. I mean what's
>>the rush?
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>She was leaving for Chicago the next day
>at noon, and I wanted to bed her before
>she did. T'wasn't really necessary, but
>I wanted to, so I did it.
I didn't know that. Cool. This changes things but not too much. When you
spoke with her before getting together what was the conversation like? This
detail would reveal alot of what happened during the interaction.
>>You could have
>>taken your time and given her
>>the best sex of your life.
>
>I might've given her the best sex of her
>life. The best sex of MY life is going
>to be pretty damn hard to find again,
>since she was *AMAZING* in bed, but
>that's a whole other story ;)
>
>>However you chose to go the
>>route of busting her LMR. You
>>got the pussy at all costs for
>>what?
>>
>>One question. How many girls
>>which have been fucked after
>>overcoming LMR become repeat
>>customers? I'm curious about
>>this because this never gets
>>mentioned.
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>Excellent question.
>
>My term for "repeat customers" is
>"converted". After a girl is converted,
>she'll treat you well and you can bed
>her whenever you want, and she'll do
>what you want her to do.
>
>Back when I was a young thundercat, I
>had a hard time converting girls I'd
>lay. Nowdays, though, I have a 100%
>conversion rate on girls I want to keep.
>
>Girls that screen themselves out I might
>have a one-night stand with, but if I
>want her in the rotation and sleep with
>her once, it always works out now. My
>little Korean 10 and I have talked again
>since we slept together and it's still
>super on. When she gets back from
>Illinois in a week we'll have at it
>again, no problem.
Nice. That's what my game is about nowaday. I like to have MLTR's and go for
the ONS whenever a girl turns me on to the point where I must have her but
she's more than likely not a candidate for LTR.
>>Paraiso
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