mASF post by "Dimitri"
posted on: mASF forum: Advanced Discussion, May 5, 2005
Howdy Paraiso,
Good comments and questions.
On 5/19/05 1:09:00 AM, Paraiso wrote:
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>There are similarities in
>both.
Definitely.
>The one where she likes
>sex and isn't that much into
>you means you need a lot more
>attraction.
Agreed.
>The one where she
>likes you and hasn't had sex
>with you means she just needs
>a bit more attraction.
I disagree here. I've been wiling out lately, and had another new girl last
night. Virgin.
She was *very* into me, but she didn't know how the whole sex thing really
worked yet. She needed no more attraction. Just some gentle leading and
reassurance.
>I don't agree that it's a hang
>up about sex. I think it has
>to do more with smoothness and
>leading than anything else.
I mostly agree. We might be getting into semantics here? Smoothness and leading
help, either way.
>I've never seen a woman who is
>dripping wet have any hang ups
>with sex.
Really? I've seen it plenty. I've had girls *soak* through their panties *and*
jeans before, then have some hangups. Maybe they wonder if they're good enough,
or if they wait longer they'll be more likely to keep me, or some logical
concern about someone walking in, or whatever. Sure, it's a lot easier if she's
really horny, but when you try to fuck a girl in 30 minutes... well, you get
the idea.
>My interpretation of LMR is as
>follows. If you need sex from
>her more than she does from
>you then you will get LMR. If
>you treat her in a way where
>you are genuinely unaffected
>and you make it a challenge
>for her, then she'll make
>herself available to you.
Not a bad frame. How many women have you slept with?
I used to like the whole "challenge" idea myself, but more and more I find
myself drawn to a more natural form of game. I don't like artificially
presenting myself as a challenge... I'm naturally a challenge since I'm such a
great guy with so many women after me...
That's my attitude. As for sex, if I actually, genuinely like a girl, and we've
touched and kissed and gotten to know each other and spent time together, why
wouldn't I want to sleep with her? It's a mutual reward and a totally natural
thing.
>It's
>up to you to make her willing
>and wanting and you should
>never let it go as far as her
>having LMR. Be challenging and
>smooth. This is where
>experience and finesse meet
>seduction.
Agreed. Woodhaven never gets LMR, because he's so solid and smooth. He has the
best conversion rates in all departments of everyone I've ever seen.
>Now take the Korean girl from
>your example. She was
>attracted to you but I think
>you could have been smoother
>and taken your time and not
>rushed the lay. I mean what's
>the rush?
She was leaving for Chicago the next day at noon, and I wanted to bed her
before she did. T'wasn't really necessary, but I wanted to, so I did it.
>You could have
>taken your time and given her
>the best sex of your life.
I might've given her the best sex of her life. The best sex of MY life is going
to be pretty damn hard to find again, since she was *AMAZING* in bed, but
that's a whole other story ;)
>However you chose to go the
>route of busting her LMR. You
>got the pussy at all costs for
>what?
>
>One question. How many girls
>which have been fucked after
>overcoming LMR become repeat
>customers? I'm curious about
>this because this never gets
>mentioned.
Excellent question.
My term for "repeat customers" is "converted". After a girl is converted,
she'll treat you well and you can bed her whenever you want, and she'll do what
you want her to do.
Back when I was a young thundercat, I had a hard time converting girls I'd lay.
Nowdays, though, I have a 100% conversion rate on girls I want to keep.
Girls that screen themselves out I might have a one-night stand with, but if I
want her in the rotation and sleep with her once, it always works out now. My
little Korean 10 and I have talked again since we slept together and it's still
super on. When she gets back from Illinois in a week we'll have at it again, no
problem.
>Paraiso
Dimitri
http://www.rapidsocialimpact.com
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