mASF post by "jackenloper"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, June 6, 2005LG,
I can already see that you know how to play the basic game that most people in
here struggle with, and you are trying to advance to a more complicated
game.... which is awesome!
Eliciting Values and Qualifying can be powerful with women that you especially
know (2nd or third date).I am not too acclimated to eliciting values from
chicks because that is
usually not a big part of my game, or may be it is but i just don't notice it.
As for the kino... I have some examples of what i do:
- Starting Kino really works for me when i talk with the girl for about 10
minutes first. I don't want to freak her out by just grabbing her without
displaying that i am not a threat to her, but infact a confort. I would say
that if 10 minutes pass and you crack a couple of jokes and she laughs and
continues reciprocate the convo, start kino without problems.
*****KINO*****
-When i walk with the chick and just rapport with her, i usually like to do C&F
and joke about stuff. For example, i would ask her if she studies for hours
everynight for school, when she says yes, I just say "you are such a geek".
Now the frame with which i say it is confident, but also
very jokingly. You know yourself that if the frame is off, rapport and c&F
will go to shit. Lets say that she says "no i don't study every night".... I
grab her hand, then turn my body towards her front, and grab her other hand,
look her in the eye and say "I knew that it seemed too good to find a smart and
a cute girl". Deliver this with C&F again. Make sure you look her in the eyes
when you deliver this. Powerful stare! Her face and eyes will tell you right
away if she is into you and if she wants you hard right away. After this, let
go of her one hand, and keep holding on to the other and start walking with her
while telling her "its ok, may be we can still work with you" (then wink).
This is all improv stuff man. I think this is where that idea of alpha comes
from.
If she playfully hits you back (which is good!), take her both hands (by
wrists), move her body close to you while moving both of her hands(which are in
your control) slightly back and say "none of this bad-girl personality today".
(again you hit with C&F... she is probably giggling already), then i would let
go of one hand, use my other hand to cup her face and get close (kiss close) to
her face and look her deeply in the eyes and say "you have to be nice to me
today" ... right at this second i lose my funny state and hit sexual state in a
heartbeat and since her face is
cupped in my hand, i would go for the kiss if the situation allows it.
This type of Kino, will reduce your "bullshit rapport" time with the chick and
allow you to lay her without being too aggressive.
I have to agree that the most important thing about speaking, and being with
chicks is being in frame. Strong, confident, sexy, funny frame will get you
layed much sooner than Napoleon dynamite frame :)
One more thing that helps me LG is to get confidence by imagining myself being
tom cruise or another popular actor. These guys are calm and just dont give a
shit when they are around women. They are just calm and make moves like it was
candy.
Hopefully this helps.
"Ah, who gives a shi*..."
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