mASF post by "mike123"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, June 6, 2005On 6/5/05 6:59:00 AM, jessieblue wrote:
>Went out last night to a local
>small club in my home town.
>Dress casual, good hairstyle,
>I look good in a cool t-shirt.
>I was with a wing and we both
>were sarging the place, or
>trying to anyway.We part ways
>as we always do and after
>scoping the place a bit I talk
>myself out of approaching as
>it is often the case with me.
>After about half an hour tho,
>I always manage somehow to
>gather the guts to do a few
>approaches. Ok, so I decide to
>try a new opener that I read
>on ASF: " hey, why isn't
>anyone talking to you, you
>look pretty":
I dont know about that opener, its complimentary but can still trigger some
serious shit in the girl if she's the insecure type. Some chicks actually hate
to be seen as losers who are all alone. Case in point HB8 on stairs..
>I see a cute chick with a hat
>on that my wing tried to sarge
>a few hours earlier while we
>were street sarging(he
>approached her direct, talked
>for a bit and went nowhere).
>I say: hey why didn't you like
>my friend earlier, are you a
>mean girl?
>HBhat:bla bla bla, (friendly,
>smiling)
>she is cute, but a bit small
>and is looking up to me.(I am
>6ft2'')
>I keep talking and applying
>kino and had to keep my head
>down to hear her and after
>about two minutes I try to
>number close her, but she says
>she doesn't have a phone.I
>talk for another minute then
>suddenly she says "stop
>touching me", I say "you are
>mean", smile and leave.
Describe the kino more, where what how etc, did you escalate the kino? Why did
you try to # close her so fast? why did you try to # close her at all?
>
>I see two girls staying both
>silent on the dance floor and
>go with :
>Why isn't anyone talking to
>you girls?, you seem pretty.
>they are also small so I have
>to bow my head to talk to
>them. I talk to them a bit
>,they laugh, but I dont like
>either of them much so I tell
>them I'll talk to them later
>and leave.
Why? Were they UGs?
>
>I see a HB8 on the stairs at
>the entrance of the club and
>go with
>Why isn't anyone talking to
>you?, you seem pretty.
>HB8: maybe I don't want to
>talk to anybody.
>I smile and say: why do you
>seem sad? Anything happen
>today?
>Hb8: bla, bla
What did she respond here?
>After a while i ask her her
>age, and where she goes to
>school, she's 18 and studying
>to be a nurse.
>I tell her: see that guy, he
>likes you, and point to a guy
>behind her while I shake his
>hand(I saw him talking to her
>earlier). I tell the guy: this
>girl said she likes you, he is
>lost and gives a sly smile.
>she playfully punches me, I
>say why are the girls in this
>town weird? You seem normal
>and I would like to see you
>sometimes, but only if you
>promise to not look so sad
>then. Give me your number,
>I'll call you, She says I
>can't ,I have a BF, I smile
>and leave.
It seems like you are pushing for an outcome like a phone number so damn early,
relax dont be outcome dependant and dont PUSH FOR A NUMBERCLOSE IN A CLUB. If
anything you want to makeout with her or hangout with her first, besides girls
are looking for it that night in clubs. The BF response is usually BS and even
if its not it doesnt mean shit, her BF wasnt standing beside her right? Persist
dont eject when she says she has a BF. (She probably said it because you pushed
for a #close so fast).
>
>Walk a bit more and go into a
>group of three girls:
>Why isn't anyone talking to
>you girls?, you seem pretty.
>the Ug of the group physically
>blocks me with her hand and
>says: We are not, leave us
>alone. I say : Why is it that
>the ugly girl of a group is
>always the most mean girl .She
>is mad,and I leave.
If youre gonna go direct with compliments dont work the entire group,
especially not if theres an UG there. She knows she is ugly, you saying so will
be insincere in her eyes, thus youre just saying that to bag her hot friends,
she will CB. Focus on target and go in hard on target with that without any
regard of her friends. That means turning your back on her friends, standing
close to target and giving that compliment, sort of having the frame of
"Romantic hero a la Tom Cruise" rather than "desperate drunk obnoxious guy".
>
>see a lone wolf on a step a
>bit higher, behind my wing. I
>move him out of the way, go to
>her, try the opener, she
>doesn't respond, I say: I see
>why nobody is talking to you,
>You are mute, she looks the
>other way, I walk.
How do you approach? Have you had any EC? Which direction is your crotch
facing, at her or away? Are you applying kino? How close are you standing? What
is your state/how are you feeling?
Dissing her because she didnt respond isnt gonna do much, you can however call
her on it. "Tell me do you always act this rude when handsome interesting
strangers go out of their way to give you a compliment?" or "I bet with that
attitude you get tons of new friends, boys must be falling over themselves
lining up to meet you.." etc etc..
>
>see two girls dancing slow, I
>try the opener, they look the
>other way and don't respond, I
>eject.
How do you approach? Have you had any EC? Which direction is your crotch
facing, at her or away? Are you applying kino? How close are you standing? What
is your state/how are you feeling?
"Tell me do you always act this rude when handsome interesting strangers go out
of their way to give you a compliment?" or "I bet with that attitude you get
tons of new friends, boys must be falling over themselves lining up to meet
you.." etc etc..
>after a while I see my wing
>dancing with a chick, and her
>HB7 friend is getting bored
>and starts talking to my
>wing's girl. I go in and open
>her with "why isn't.....?" she
>looks nice and is liking me
>from the start.I slide my hand
>on her waist(I do that a lot,
>also I play with girls blouses
>and touch their arms a lot)
Do you always do this or only when they respond good?
>I move her a bit away from my
>wing and his chick.
>HB7:Maybe nobody likes
>me(smiles)
>I say: I like you
>HB7:thank you
>I smile and say: What's your
>name? We shake hands,
>introduce ourselves, I ask her
>her age, she's a minor. I like
>her anyway as I'm young myself
>(23). My wing is leaving and I
>am tired and want to go too. I
>ask for her number, she
>doesn't have a phone( i leave
>in a small town in a small
>european country, some chicks
>really don't have a phone).
So then why the hell are you trying to # close? I find that # closing works
worse in smaller communities. Social conditioning thing..
>When that happens I try to set
>a day2 right there for the
>next day, but they usually
>flake anyway,the numbers I
>take are quite flaky also but
>once in a while I manage a
>day2, k-close or a very rare
>f-close.
See, work this the other way. Go for the fclose that night, if THAT doesnt
work, with all the gained rapport get the # , if that doesnt work push for the
day2 then and there, if that doesnt work then fuck it. There is no such thing
as K-close. Kissing shouldnt be used as a closing, it should be an escalation
to an F-close. Kissing can also be meaningless, i've tongued down girls whom 1
hour later dissed me to go home with another guy or go home alone! A kiss in
other words, as numbers means absolutely shit.
>I tell her to give me a kiss
>on the cheek, she was sweet,
>gave me a kiss then I left and
>went home without a number.
Why did you leave?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>Usually I get a number or two,
>but I had bad luck and sloppy
>game last night. My wing got 4
No you didnt, I actually like your game abit, kind of direct, but with the
whole wrong intentions(#close) and way too pushy for it.
>numbers, so I get to practice
>my phone game(he is not that
>good and as we have the same
>voice over the phone I usually
>call his numbers for him and
>set his day2s).
Wtf? Why? Fuck the numbers! Same night F-close is the name of the game in
clubs.
>
>I type slow and english is not
>my first language, but I dont
>seem to advance too much in my
>game lately, so I will try to
>write my FR from now on on
>mASF for anyone who wants to
>offer advice.
Hope this helps! ;)
-Mike
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