mASF post by "crnaosa"
posted on: mASF forum: Field Reports Discussion, June 6, 2005>
>"Von Dutch" - certified PUA
>clothing;)))))
>
hahhahhaa, hell yeah!! :)
>
>LOL....I didn't realized that it was her
>mom there...It was hilarious for me when
>found out...And now you're telling me
>that the third "girl" was her aunt...LOL
>;)))))))))))
>
>Anyway you opened that girl very
>good...You created attraction and
>rapport was on the way...(If just there
>wasn't cockblocking mom)...Well now
>occured to me that if the mom was any
>hotter I could have sarged her;))))
hahahaha, well yeah, why not?:))Thanks man...
>Anyway girl was into you man.. I saw her
>how she was curling her hair and other
>stuff giving you mad IOIs...But I think
>that you have another problem...I'll
>write about it later...
>
>Uh...my arsenal...;)) Man you'll make me
>shy...
Don't be shy! :)
>Anyway I tried that line for the
>first time. And I used it case they were
>very young so it fit perfectly(btw. I
>don't sarge girls that are that young, I
>like more mature ones). What I said was
>a variation of "you remind me of power
>puff girls", and to my surprise they
>responded pretty good about that one. I
>almost didn't belive it.
Believe it!!
>They started
>showing IOIs and stuff...One girls
>actually said that the fourth member is
>missing, jsut left few minutes ago...But
>that sarge ended very soon...and we
>continued our walk...
>Yeah...I felt pretty bad about sarging
>girls. I just wasn't in the state...But
>I later that evening I tried and I
>fucked up enormously...read my post in
>General. And there is another thing,
>when I met you and when we started to
>looking for girls I felt HUGE pressure
>on me. I felt like under a ton.
I can understand that...you know, you have to trust your wing and to give him
support, at least by not doing anything that could harm him, so, you were more
than that, and therefore, you WERE a good wing...if you are not into sarging at
the moment than relax...and enjoy the ride:))be patient and treat yourself nice
and gentle...the mood will come...
>It was
>like I must sarge no matter what and
>that was making me problem too. But when
>I'm around my regular friends and people
>I know, there is no that pressure cause
>they don't know nothing about mASF so I
>can chill if I want and sarge if I feel
>like it. Don't get me wrong, you weren't
>pushy or something like that...It was
>just in my head.
>
>Okay I will be very honest about you.
I hope you will, man:)
>First when I met you we started talking
>about TD's 25 points. And you remember
>that I told you that 25 points isn't
>that important. You just must be cool
>with yourself and relaxed and "25
>points" will come to you naturally. If
>you're constanly worried about how your
>legs will be positioned, and how your
>face expressions will look like than you
>can't relaxed and be one with yourself.
I still think that 25 points are good and useful. You shouldn't overwhelm
yourself with it, of course. But, it's good if you can introspect yourself
without overwhelming, just be aware of yourself and what you're presenting,
that's the whole idea.
>So that's what I did. I just forgot all
>about 25 points and I'm trying to just
>be cool with my self and to love me and
>all that inner game» stuff. Now, I want
>you to tell me how I looked? Be deadly
>honest, just like I'm with you.
What the hell?It seems like you don't believe me when I said that you were
cool...well yes, you were cool, not in the mood really, but cool...ok?!
>To me you looked a little bit like a
>trying too hard. You were focusing on
>all this little things and your face was
What little things?You know this just because I mentioned that 25 points
article is good?Fuck man...
>a little bit stiff. You weren't relaxed.
>That seriousnes is ok somewhen when
>you're chatting a girl but you must be
>yourself. You looked like a fake alpha.
>Correct that. Just relax. And
>acknowledge that you're cool guy. You
>don't have to do all that excersises.
What exercise?I don't remember that I mention any exercises...
>Cause you really _are the man_. You just
>need to be aware of that. And forget
>about 25 points. They are ok in begining
>but if you want to become real ALPHA, do
>you think that those guys think how
>their body will look like or they are
>just comfortable in every situation?
Do you think that Tyler Durden is ALPHA?25 points is his article, which is
perceived as outstanding one from other ALPHAs and therefore is on
www.bristollair.com.WTF?
>Another thing. You are TOO fast in
>sarge. You are shooting yourself in the
>foot. I mean, you left the part when you
>approached few girls on the street which
>just blew you in a matter of seconds. I
I left it out, because I don't have unlimited time to write every fuckin thing
that happens to me...and yes, I didn't succeeded with her...but you know, if
you perceive things in a frame "girl blew you" or something, when you don't
succeed to get in touch with her that can cause you problems with your
approach...
>can tell you why is this. You looked too
>needy. Again you must relax and slow
>things down. (btw. don't think that I'm
>preaching you here. I have similar
>problems. I just want to help you. And
>I'm expecting same comments from you.)
>This fast approaching thing can be good
>for fun.
Ok, I spotted this hb9, that you are talking about, when she was 5m in front of
me and we were walking opposite directions...you need FAST approach here!
>But you must calm down and
>really dedicate yourself to every set
>you open. This way it looked like you
>were trying to open as much sets as you
>could, without reall intention to go
>anywhere with them. You must really push
>yourself with every set and don't rush
>the things. "Make the ho say no!".
I don't want to push myself, I want to enjoy the set and if I don't feel the
vibe, I'll go...I don't have time for every fuckin set, just because I want to
fuck!!
>I
>mean you can't just open three girls and
>without any rapport any attraction ask
>them "is there any good party in the
>city". That line was little bit dumb.
That line isn't dumb, it depends on the way of how you say it, actually
>And it conveyed your eagerness which is
>actually needines. And that is when the
>sarge ended.
>
>Don't take this as insult, I'm saying
>dumb shit to girls all the time. I did
>it that same night when I left and
>sarged that three girls. I recevied many
>bitchslaps from them and had spoken some
>pretty dumb shit...So I just want to be
>sure that you don't se me as preaching
>you. Ok?
Of course it's ok:)
>
>I know where you are now in the process
>of learning. You had to do massive
>amount of approaches in order to
>overcome that anxiety.
As a matter of a fact, you don't...you know very little about me and what I was
doing with you, at friday night was a bit new for me, cause I want to try new
things...you know nothing about my PU history, because I recently began to post
here...and I don't have any intention to qualify myself here
>But now when you
>are over it work further. You must work
>on your post opening stuff. Just be
>easier on the girls don't push so much
>pressure on them. Buying temperature is
>OK, especially with younger girls, but
>you must convey that you have cool
>personality. You can't do that with what
>you are doing now. the only way is if
>you show her the way how you treat her.
>And you can't treat her right if you
>still are in that "adrenaline rush
>opening" mode. You must go down and
>start normal convos.
>
>All I saw from you was that you were
>conveying that fake player image to
>girls.
OOh really...isn't that just sweet?:)As a matter of a fact, I was actually
doing something...or at least try to do something...
>You didn't seemed like genuinly
>interested in them. That's why I said
>they felt like under a pressure. They
>didn't feel that you just love them or
>want to know them.
Why should I love them instantly?!Hey man, WTF?
>Especiall that 3set
>to which you introduced me. They were
>young and dumb, but they felt that you
>were just playing with them.
So what?Is that forbidden here?to just play with the girls...or you thought
that I want to fuck every fuckin one of them...ok, almost every one that I
approach:))but man, have fun!!!
>Btw. that
>first girl that you opened, that was OK.
>that post card opener was really
>cool...althought I didn't hear the last
>part of your convo when you didn't
>manage to take her phone...but what I
>heard earlier in the sarge was ok...you
>asked for her opinion, her style,
>feelings and stuff...that was ok...Work
>on that...don't be too itchy. It's that
>mine sticking point is similar, I tend
>to hurry up things too...so I know what
>I'm talking about. I thing that we must
>look at them like beings that we can
>learn so much interesting stuff about.
>That should be the frame.
>
>
>Greetz... man...
>
Thanks for being sincere...cheers man!
crnaosa
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