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Here's some more stuff that I've been into lately.. I find this stuff is
pretty funny, so hopefully some guys can derive some use out of it.
If I had to teach guy game in under 10 minutes, I guess that this is probably
what I'd talk about (along with the more important points from the 25 points of
not appearing needy, because if you appear needy you're usually blown out.. So
say not the whole list, but at least not to peck in, or be too eager to touch or
ask questions or have weird manneurisms that look desperate).
The method: Show that girls are sexual predators, and then while chatting, keep
going back to showing them why what they're doing is just designed to take
advantage of you. That's it.
Necessary props: Badboy(croatian), Style, Kooper, and David D.. I stole and
meshed together a bunch of ideas from them, and tinkered to turned into a linear
system for keeping girls chasing you from start to lay.
It's pretty basic..
Do it however you want. Here's how I personally do it, but there's a inifinite
ways, within the frame itself.
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Step 1:
EXPANDED SEXUAL PREDATOR ROUTINE:
Lay a STRONG humour anchour. They have to be laughing out of their minds, so
that you can keep re-using the callback humour through out the pickup.
"You know what? I can't even trust you guys. Girls are predators. Girls are
SEXUAL predators! Guys think that they seduce women and have all this power.
Yeah right! Girls choose. They choose. The guys just dangle themselves in front
of them *thinking* that they made it happen, but they don't realize that its the
girl who chose THEM.
Girls are predators.. They hold the cards.. Examine the evidence.
First, when a guy gets mad at his girlfriend, can he strap on his bitch boots,
shove up his pushup bra, do up his hair and makeup, and head out to the bar and
pull a girl home in under five minutes? Yeah right! It's GIRLS. YOU GUYS have
the power to do that, not guys! (wait while girls laugh).. What percentage of
guys can do that? Look at them (point at guys).. They're leaning in and
touching, making the girls all uncomfortable, but some of the girls like them
anyway.. But the guys THINK its that they were aggressive.. So what, like 5% of
guys TOPS can do what 100% of girls can do.
Second, girls are the only gender with one organ designed for NOTHING ELSE but
sexual pleasure. (wait while girls laugh) And on that organ, there are ten times
more nerve endings than anything a guy has. (wait while girls laugh)
That's why, when GIRLS have sex, they go (put hands onto hair, and do the
following very convincingly, like Meg Ryan "When Harry met Sally" style) "uhhhhhh....
oooohhh.... uhhhhhhh.." (wait while girls laugh hysterically screaming their
heads off)
IDEALLY, THE ROUTINE IS SUPPOSED TO DO THE FOLLOWING:
-sets a humour anchour that can be re-used to keep them giggling throughout the
duration of the pickup
-gives you fodder to do "busting them on their manneurisms" stuff.. You can now
tease them on their actions, and tease them on what they say, showing that its
all designed to take advantage of you
-provides a Kooper-style C&F roleplaying frame, for them to play in, that
results in them seducing you
-makes the obstacles/peergroup love you, because they think you're really fun,
and it makes them trust you with their friend that you won't be pushy
-establishes a frame that girls are meant to seduce guys, and its
normal/cool/fun
-conveys that you know the deal about social interaction
-conveys that you know not to make girls feel uncomfortable by being pushy or
trying to "seduce"
-conveys that you probably ARE one of the 5% of guys who can pull a girl home,
because just implying that you know what's wrong with other guys' approaches,
suggests that you know how to do it right
-mindfucks her into a frame where she's becoming more sexually aggressive
STEP 2 - MISINTERPRETING THEM AS TRYING TO PREY ON YOU:
Point out real IOIs (there will be a lot), as well as MISINTERPRETING things
that are not IOIs, in order to mess with girls in the set who are not as into
you.
-(point) "Hey, you just licked your lips! (back off like you're scared")
-"Hey, you're touching me.. Hands off the merchandise.. I'm just trying to talk
to you.. I just want to talk, and you're just SITTING THERE WAITING for me to
talk so I can feel ready for you, and you're not even listening to what I'm
really saying... You're just biding your time until I feel comfortable with
you."
-"Hey, stop giggling at me.. It's making me feel really good.. Stop it.. Stop
being so attracted to me" (this must be in deep attraction, or sounds lame.. if
its in deep attraction, it makes her REALIZE that she's attracted"
-"Hey! YOU'RE ATTRACTED TO ME! STOP IT! I JUST WANT TO TALK, STOP BEING SUCH A
PREDATOR!"
-"Hey! You guys think its all fun and games.. Like you can just do this, and
everything will be FINE.. But you probably didn't even know about the hidden
damage you're doing.. Did you know that 99% of all colleged aged males who get
date raped commit suicide within 1 year? Did you know that when you're taking
advantage of a guy for your own pleasure that he walks around depressed and
alone for the rest of his life! I don't want this to happen to me! Stop it! No
no no, now you're licking your lips again.. Stop stop stop (engaging the group,
so you're saying stop to everyone in the group individually).. Help!"
-For girls who aren't as attracted in the set: "Hey, you're leaning away but
your knees are pointing at me.. You're trickier than your friends.. You're
trying to go in under the radar but your knees are giving it away... OK she's
scaring me the most.."
STEP 3 - JUST CONVEYING PERSONALITY SO THE GIRLS GET TO KNOW YOU, QUALIFYING
YOUR TARGET, BUT ALL THE WHILE RE-INITIATING STATE WITH CALLBACK HUMOUR:
The idea is that you're running a normal pickup, but using callback humour and
the cocky & playful roleplaying stuff. So this gives you the maneuvrability to
run a nice normal conversation, but keeping the interaction charged with this
stuff.
-Use "reverse-EV" type stuff, so that she's finding out positive things about
you and building trust. The whole pickup lasts usually around 4-7 hours, start
to lay. You're supposed to be conveying personality during this time. The
accusing-them thing is something you do as their state drops, or when you see a
good opening to do so. It's not the entire method, since just teasing won't get
you laid except by party girls. With party girls, just tease the fuck out of
them, that's it.
-Qualify her to you, and every time you act impressed lean in, and then say
"wait a minute.. what are you doing.. I can't talk to you anymore, you're
trouble"
-Ask her arbitrary questions about herself, and then pretend like you're hitting
buying temperature, but then cutting it off because you're afraid that she'll
take advantage of that. "PUA: What's your sign? HB: Libra. PUA: OMG I love you
(take hands).... Wait, I can't talk to you anymore.. You're trouble.. Go away
(push her away and turn your back on her and face her friends and say "she's
trouble")"
-If she does something really impressive, pretend like you freaked out and hit
high buying temperature, and jump in and kiss her, then go "aaaah.... what are
you doing to me???" and turn around and move away from her like you're scared
that she manipulated you to do that.
-Condition her (like Pavlov's dogs) to keep doing things that will seduce you.
She'll grab you, etc.. Reward her with kino, or whatever. But then also run away
when she escalates it too much. Mindfuck her into trying to seduce you. The
girls seem to think that this is really fun, because they feel safe and on their
terms, and also they seem to find it a turn-on. Bear in mind, you're coming in
super-confident (you opened them, you held court in the set), so its obvious
that you have alot going for you.
STEP 4 - LAY LOGISTICS:
-Start acting possibly convinced. Her friends will start trying to convince you
to stay, and they'll start qualifying your target saying that "she's safe PUA..
don't worry.. you can trust her.. go with her.." etc etc..
-When you walk home together, don't be too eager to keep the joke going. At the
same time, when you get her home, walk past your bedroom, and one last time say
"Hey! See this is exactly what I'm talking about.. Wait in the TV room.."
-Then, grab your blankets, and run into the TV room.. Throw them on her like its
all funny and jump on the couch in a way that makes her laugh (humour disarms
escalation to pickups.. if you escalate a pickup, but make the girl laugh while
you're doing it, she'll backwards rationalize that she wanted you to escalate).
Then say "C'mere c'mere c'mere.... its cold its cold its cold..." (in a funny
way so she laughs that you're basically putting her in a very comprimising
position).
-Once she's on top of you, STOP TALKING.. It starts getting heavy.. Breathing
starts synchronizing.. You're breathing in her ear maybe and fingers are
interlocked and you're getting closer.. Then say "uhhh ohhh.. mmmm... ummm..
this is OK I think... uh oh.." and start kissing her.
-Take it from there.. If the joke is still working (it may be SO PLAYED by this
point, but if it is STILL WORKING), feel free to make liberal use of callback
humour to disarm any last minute resistance (misinterpret her LMR as her just
trying to get you more comfortable)
**NOTE: If the joke has become PLAYED, then don't insist on pursuing it. The
whole frame/routine is always good, but don't be routine dependent and insist on
pursuing it. If its fading a little bit, just move onto something else. If its
working consistently the entire time, then keep using it. Just common sense.
-TD
